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Date Posted: 23:46:09 06/14/08 Sat
Author: Chani
Subject: But that isn't a problme of showing remorse or regret
In reply to: anyasbuttmonkey 's message, "There's a big difference between what happened in Season 3..." on 23:16:59 06/14/08 Sat

Without Helo, Lee and the others would have carried on their plan and I doubt they would have felt any remorse either. When the Cylons attacked the Colonies they obviously thought they had good reasons, just like season 3 Lee who thought that destroying them all was the best solution to be safe. The Cylons thought that mankind didn't deserve to live.

Now they have obviously changed their mind but they are scared and think that they have to kill in order to not be killed.

Lee didn't make peace because Cylons would deserve to be forgiven. He isn't being magnanimous. I am not a fan of Lee but he obviously understood that shaking hands might be a better choice than a never ending war, than retaliation, hence his "it doesn't have to happen again". Sometimes attacking isn't the best defence.

It is a pragmatic choice, but also perhaps, on some level, he finally gets that the humanity must end the war to survive because trying to destroy the Cylons is like self-destruction (as Helo hinted in season 3 when he said it would be a "crime against humanity"), especially now that four familiar and even close people turned out to be Cylons...

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[> [> [> [> [> Oh, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it wasn't the right choice... -- anyasbuttmonkey, 00:33:48 06/15/08 Sun [1]

Certainly ending the cycle of never-ending "potshots" between Cylon and Human can only benefit... I just damn well hope that either a) D'Anna and her cohorts start showing some remorse and try to make serious amends; or b) it all goes to hell in the next few episodes *because* the Cylons still won't accept that what they did was wrong. They've made noises about recognising the mistake, but they've made no move to qualify those with any actions pointing towards making amends - they've basically just gone "oops! My bad" and tried to brush it all under the rug and start over. The only ones who've tried to show the humans they are truly sorry are Caprica and Athena, and I just don't buy the rest of the Fleet being happy with an armistice just because the President's forgiven them. I know I wouldn't be.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> They shared the same goal -- Chani, 10:40:00 06/15/08 Sun [1]

now they have to face the same distress...I wonder where they'll go from there!

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Its going to be jaw-droppingly interesting, to say the least... -- anyasbuttmonkey, 23:22:19 06/15/08 Sun [1]

And what's going to happen with the 1s, 4s and 5s?! I doubt they're going to stay out of it for long!

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