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Date Posted: 23:57:20 06/14/08 Sat
Author: Chani
Subject: Methinks you're arguing like Bill Adama here
In reply to: anyasbuttmonkey 's message, "I'm still not convinced..." on 23:22:19 06/14/08 Sat

I mean, when he said that he hadn't known Saul for decades and that he had hair then! Your Joe Public already had to accept that the Final Four were different, could age, could procreate, and were unique...

The 12 models were a fundamental fact but until last season we also thought that there were numerous incarnations for each model. The Four apparently broke that rule.

So I'll answer like Tigh. The fact that all the models have different physical features doesn't mean that the Fifth can't look like the Eights and can't be connected to them.

Also, just to nitpick... Just because D'Anna was talking about the Final Five to Cavil, doesn't preclude one of them being dead. I'm sure for interest's sake everyone (well, the Sixes, Eights and Twos anyway) would want to know who it was regardless :)

But don't you think that your Joe Public would go mad if there is no Final Fiver eventually because it turned out to be dead for while? ;- )

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[> [> [> [> [> Not unless it was Carolanne Adama... Yes, this theory is my own personal dead horse... -- anyasbuttmonkey, 00:40:33 06/15/08 Sun [1]

Because if it were her, and she's dead, that still has a huge effect on the show - Lee's a Hybrid :)

The Four apparently broke that rule.

We don't know that they started off with only one copy. It stands to reason that whatever happened to split the Five from the Seven, after the split either the Five themselves destroyed all their copies, or the Seven did. Either way, we can't say for sure that at one time, there weren't infinte copies of the Final Five :P

The fact that all the models have different physical features doesn't mean that the Fifth can't look like the Eights and can't be connected to them.

I still don't buy Boomer. She was the first Eight we met, and as such she's served as a basic "How Not To Be An Eight" guide. She's the counter to Athena, as well. To turn around and say "she's not an Eight after all", I think, would cheapen everything that's happened with her.

Mainly, though, I just love The Tragedy Of Boomer(TM) storyline. Everything she wanted, Athena's gotten - and when she strives for something different (DEMAND LOVE; voting against her line) it always ends up in the crapper (concentration camps; destruction of The Hub and therefore destroying Cylon immortality).

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[> [> [> [> [> [> But her storyline isn't finished yet -- Chani *don't you ever sleep?*, 10:47:34 06/15/08 Sun [1]

they made her escape...there must be a reason!

Seriously rewatch The Hub scene, don't tell me there isn't something weird! The echos of Dylan's music are never played around D'Anna unless Boomer is there.

Hybrids abound now (Hera, Nicky, Caprica's future baby)...Lee being one wouldn't be that big a deal, eevn for his father. And seriously I don't think that the audience would be satisfied with a Fifth that is no more and has never been a main character. It has to be someone we're familiar with.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Oh, I know it's a longshot :) -- anyasbuttmonkey, 23:24:37 06/15/08 Sun [1]

I just figure it would be interesting for Lee and Bill specifically - and it fits with Kara's penchant for Cylon men ;)

I'm fairly certain it's going to be a major character. I'm just not sure that this is going to be the storyline where they take it to such a cerebral place (not when you've got all the Dying Leader and the All This Has Happened Before nonsense going on... I feel like the Final Cylon storyline has to be, in explanation terms, fairly straightforward to counterbalance all the rest).

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