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Date Posted: 00:45:54 06/15/08 Sun
Author: anyasbuttmonkey
Subject: I thought that too at the time...
In reply to: Esmerelda 's message, "Oh and" on 00:28:22 06/15/08 Sun

Too coincidental that just as the Fleet jump to the Nebula, and everyone's power goes off, Madame President gets a "headache" - and when the power comes back on, it's like the Four have been rebooted and they finally remember what they are.

It might not even be the chamalla - the cancer itself could actually be her biomechanics degrading. Hera's Hybrid blood gave her body a salve with which to rejuvenate itself (stem cells), but that didn't last forever - and now she's "breaking down" again.

Then again, if that were the case then surely Cottle would've noticed his deloxin (or whatever it's called) treatment not working.

Still, Roslin is a good choice by anyone's standards - although it raises the question, if D'Anna cracked that joke and realised Roslin didn't know about being a Cylon, why would she assume the Dylan Four knew?

I've now decided the Final Cylon is Baltar, I managed to talk myself into it over on the TWoP forum... I'll just repost what I wrote there because its late and I can't think so hard anymore...!

Baltar's ultimate act of redemption could be him finally accepting his guilt and his part in all the various genocides along the way (and not trying to weasel out of them with technicalities and religious piousness) - and once he's come to terms with ALL of that... he finds out he's the final Cylon. The reason he wouldn't have been switched on with the others could be because he wanted to be a Cylon, but only because that meant (in his words) he'd stop being a traitor to one people and start being a hero to another. Before, it was self-interest; if he comes to terms with his actions and the necessary remorse, then finding out he's a Cylon is less about self-aggrandisation and more just about finding out who he is :)

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: I thought that too at the time... -- Esmerelda, 00:57:31 06/15/08 Sun [1]

I still think it takes far too much away from Baltar's arc to have him actually be a Cylon, it absolves him. Of course he could find out and then say 'you know what, I still did a really awful thing', but I think he's too much of a narcisist to come to that conclusions.

Was it you or Seema I was talking too when I said I suspect that Lee's words to Baltar, "I don't do these things for you" are going to be reversed and Baltar's going to say them to Lee before saving the universe?

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Not me, that's for sure...! -- anyasbuttmonkey, 01:01:48 06/15/08 Sun [1]

Although I definitely think that sounds like something Ron would do :)

I still think it takes far too much away from Baltar's arc to have him actually be a Cylon, it absolves him.

That's kind-of my point: he can only find out he's a Cylon *after* absolution becomes a moot point - in my theory, he stops seeking absolution and faces his actions head-on, accepting the blame and the guilt and whatnot and finding a way to work through it without using "God Loves Me" as an easy out. Only after that does he discover his true nature, because by that point it isn't about his self-interest or self-preservation at all.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> and in my head -- Esmerelda, 01:15:24 06/15/08 Sun [1]

they totally make out after Baltar says it!

*cough* where was I? Oh yeah. Baltar as cylon...I just, dislike the idea. I can see how they could justify it, but I still think it's a bit of a cop out.

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