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Date Posted: 00:07:21 08/24/10 Tue
Author: grasshopper
Subject: Re: ... is wondering why ...
In reply to: rana 's message, "Re: ... is wondering why ..." on 16:51:48 07/08/10 Thu

"So, a lot of schooling plus work for less money than someone earns who will sit on a chair all day, make phone calls and watch a computer monitor.
Unjust."
- Maybe, but more rewarding spiritually for some. And it negates the need to sit at a desk all day, which can be a killer for some.

"The leftover manual jobs (at least here) you need to endure an apprenticeship for several years to get your journeyman's papers; and to open your own workshop with what you were skilled in, you need to go to a master school for several years first in order to get your knowledge and abilities certified.
So, a lot of schooling plus work for less money than someone earns who will sit on a chair all day, make phone calls and watch a computer monitor.
Unjust."
- You need similar 'qualifications' over here (and in most of the Western world) also. But then that is to try and weed out the cowboys. Your average web designer (with degree and time-served (3 years + 3 years)) will today be on about �35k. Your average carpenter (with time served and qualifications, about 7 years if you take them separately - time served is 5 years qualifications can be learnt on the job) can also expect to be on about �35k a year.

"But how can a customer be sure that these craftsmen work up to the contemporary standards of the trade and safety standards if they have not been officially certified? A carpenter building and fitting in a door for a house which will not crack, warp and fits the frame for the time being? A plumber guaranteeing that the pipes will not stink, the angle of the sewage flow is the right one not to cause a vacuum, or pipes will not be rusting in the ground or walls? An electrician making sure nobody will get a shock when touching applications, or the cables have the correct diameter so they won't glow under full load and cause fires burning down the house?"
- You hate the system that creates these competency-based requirements yet you are not sure what should happen when said requirements do no exist, yes?

I may be drunk, as always.

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