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Date Posted: 15:52:52 09/22/01 Sat

We had lived with terrorism for years an learn that violence in reply(we called estate terrorism) was not the solution.I wondered what happens if they had there accounts blocked an if islamic priests of the world do not support their thoughts.
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  • Re: WAR??? -- chelsee campbell, 19:29:24 12/01/04 Wed
Subject: Bin Ladin unwise to call this a religious war


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Date Posted: 23:41:03 11/03/01 Sat

It is foolish for Bin Ladin to call for a religious war with "Christians" or for a war "with the West."
The danger is that the West and Christians will agree that is the war. In raw terms, the "West" and "Christians" could completely obliterate the Muslim world in a "real war".
The folly of Bin Ladin is a believe that the West does not have the stomach for war. The history of the West is the history of war, genocidal, massive destructive wars, for thousands of years. Thus, the worse mistake possible would be actually convince either the "Western Christian" world or the Muslim and Middle Eastern world that this is "War".

The reliance of Bin Ladin, of course, is that the West will not REALLY go to war, rather to a police action.

There are a few other foolish mistakes of Bin Ladin and his radical followers. The West is entirely disinterested in "religion" and in general religion is only a minor subset in the view of most Westerns. No Christians want any war over religion, they just don't care that much about it. Again, the Muslim world should be glad that Christians and Jews do not want a religious war. Afterall, Muslims took by war and hold the original sites of Western Christianity (Haga Sopia) and of Jews (the temple). And neither make any attempt to take either back.

Bin Ladin probably could appeal to "Arab" and "Muslim" pride far more successfully, than religious reasons.

The other element of radical Muslims seeking a holy war with the West is to fail to understand the West is highly sophisticated in "war" - dragging it on forever in nearly unfathomably complex mixes of economics, politics, brokering, loans, military machines, covert and overt actions of all kinds - THIS is how the West prevails.

He truly fails to understand that the USA is a mongrel socieity - race and religion - of every imaginable kind, and in many ways proud of it's "melting pot" culture. There in lies the real power of the USA even over the rest of the West. The USA has the strengths (and knowledge) of every culture and every religion - therefore on every level can reach into every part of the world.

Bin Ladin is a dinasaur - calling for a Muslim crusade against the West - a crusade brought to a standstill by the French at the Battle of Tours and then, in the aftermath of WWII was won by the West for reasons of economics - religion irrelevant. The Muslim world can not win a religious war or a war with the West, any more than it can win a war with the whole world.

Bin Ladin talks of unfairness - for which the American motto is "life is unfair, deal with it"... The real problem high profile terrorists cause the Muslim world is it prohibits Muslims from gaining any power outside the Muslim world. There are thousands and thousands of African, Jewish, Asian, European, and South/Central American surnamed government officials, judges, executives and every other position of power in the USA, but virtual none of Arab surnamed - because people just "feel' like they are "foreign" in negative ways.

This keeps the Muslim world from having REAL influence in the West and the USA. So, instead, we bomb terrorists, while breaking the oil cartel in the process, and again become the power broker in the mix of vastly superior military, economic and political power the USA possesses.

Bin Ladin, candidly, also was premature. Apparently he lacked the resources for serious, sustained terrorist attacks - rather just enough to keep the West and USA fired up enough to engage in a war. To understand the difference in "might" between the USA and the Taliban, for example, is to understand that while the Taliban now fights for it's very existence, the "war" is only a topic for discussion for most Americans - little other effect on our lives at all.

The real power of the West in Central Asia and the Middle East is in the perpetual chaos there. With the USA, virtually every Western, Asian, Russia, China, India and Middle East country now in this conflict, the chaos continues.

Finally, this "WE ARE MUSLIMS!!" cry coming from the poorest regions in the world, has much to do with why it remains poor - and poor nations are inherently weak nations.
The Islam religion as practiced (or sold) in the Middle East and Asia has been reduced to a religion of ignorance, bigotry and failure - where in it's glory years it was a religion of tolerance, scientific and economic genious, and study.

Wearing 16th century clothing, following exorbitantly oppressive treatment of women, demanding people follow religion blindly and stupidly as sheep - all block the education and advancement of the culture and society. It is guarenteed failure, poverty and inferior status in the world. Then, such as Bin Ladin, roar angrily that life is unfair because 400 year old social, economic and ideological practices no longer work.

But, on the bottomline, the worst reality for the Muslim world would be if the Christian West decide this really is a war between "Us" and "Arabs". If anyone questions the West will fight a savage war, study our war history. We destroy entire cities in a single day, battles with daily causualties into the thousands, and total war production of weapons at astronomical rates.

And, notably, tonight, an poll showed that 57% of Americans now favor using nuclear weapons against the Taliban, over 60% favor total war against Saddam Hussein, and over 70% favor blocking all Arab visas and visitors to the USA. This is not a defeat of the USA - but a disaster for the Arab Muslim world.

The USA, Russia, China, "the West", are, once again, figuring how they will manipulate and divide up this region of the unstable, dangerous Muslim world to keep it in check in "balances of power" between the factions. Those who follow Bin Ladin's reasoning are just fools.

Bin Ladin and those of his views are the worst enemies Muslim Arabs have.

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Subject: war with russia


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Date Posted: 06:57:40 09/15/02 Sun

Was afganistan previously at war with Russia? Why? Also, who actually supplied them with weaponary? Was it the USA?

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Date Posted: 16:08:00 09/17/01 Mon

Partly cloudy, temperature 2500 degrees (after the nukes.)

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Subject: Thank god we got Bush


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Date Posted: 07:50:53 11/12/01 Mon

Could you just imagine this mess had Gore won?

Poor Bush is no public speaker, but he his head is screwed on tight and his staff/cabinet members are unlike the Clinton cabinet actually subject matter experts.

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Subject: Thank god we got Bush


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Date Posted: 07:50:09 11/12/01 Mon

Could you just imagine this mess had Gore won?

Poor Bush is no public speaker, but he his head is screwed on tight and his staff/cabinet members are unlike the Clinton cabinet actually subject matter experts.

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Subject: Attack of the USA


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Date Posted: 04:42:29 09/15/01 Sat

Auch die Taliban wird hinter den Anschlägen stehen,wer einen Mörder wie bin Laden versteckt,ist auch Täter.
Würde Mohammed der Prophet noch leben , würde er all diese Menschen aus dem islamischen Glauben verbannen.
Kein "richtiger Moslem"würde je zum Jihad aufrufen.

In gedenken an die Opfer

DiHalle

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Subject: kaam aa saki na apni wafayin tho kia karein


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Date Posted: 23:59:40 03/16/01 Fri

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Subject: Stellungnahme/Kommentar


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Date Posted: 04:59:09 11/11/01 Sun

Die Anschläge des 11. September 2001 sind in jeder Hinsicht auf das Schärfste zu verurteilen. Dennoch sollte man meiner Meinung nach mit der Verurteilung und Beschuldigung bestimmter Gruppen, wie z.B. den Taliban oder Osama bin Laden, etwas vosichtiger umgehen. Immerhin existiert bis heute kein offizieller Beweis, der auf einen Zusammenhang zwischen bin Laden und den Anschlägen hinweist. Auch einen internationalen Haftbefehl gibt es bis heute nicht.
Dennoch werden die Militärschläge der USA, die in erster Linie gegen die afghanische Zivilbevölkerung gerichtet sind nur selten kritisiert und verurteilt. Die sogenannte uneingeschränkte Solidarität mit den USA sollte besonders in Deutschland mit Vorsicht zu gebrauchen sein, wenn man an dieser Stelle mal die oft verlangte Auseinandersetzung mit der deutschen Vergangenheit anbringt.
Terrorismus ist und bleibt ein Verbrechen- trotzdem sollte man Mittel verwenden, die die Terroristen ausfindig machen, damit man diese verurteilen und in einem angemessenen Masse
bestrafen kann. Die amerikanischen Militärschläge sind zu verurteilen, da zahlreiche Menschen dadurch ermordet und ihre Existenz, die ohnehin schon bescheiden war weiter zerstört und zerbommt wird.

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Subject: Stellungnahme/Kommentar


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Date Posted: 04:57:57 11/11/01 Sun

Die Anschläge des 11. September 2001 sind in jeder Hinsicht auf das Schärfste zu verurteilen. Dennoch sollte man meiner Meinung nach mit der Verurteilung und Beschuldigung bestimmter Gruppen, wie z.B. den Taliban oder Osama bin Laden, etwas vosichtiger umgehen. Immerhin existiert bis heute kein offizieller Beweis, der auf einen Zusammenhang zwischen bin Laden und den Anschlägen hinweist. Auch einen internationalen Haftbefehl gibt es bis heute nicht.
Dennoch werden die Militärschläge der USA, die in erster Linie gegen die afghanische Zivilbevölkerung gerichtet sind nur selten kritisiert und verurteilt. Die sogenannte uneingeschränkte Solidarität mit den USA sollte besonders in Deutschland mit Vorsicht zu gebrauchen sein, wenn man an dieser Stelle mal die oft verlangte Auseinandersetzung mit der deutschen Vergangenheit anbringt.
Terrorismus ist und bleibt ein Verbrechen- trotzdem sollte man Mittel verwenden, die die Terroristen ausfindig machen, damit man diese verurteilen und in einem angemessenen Masse
bestrafen kann. Die amerikanischen Militärschläge sind zu verurteilen, da zahlreiche Menschen dadurch ermordet und ihre Existenz, die ohnehin schon bescheiden war weiter zerstört und zerbommt wird.

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Subject: IT IS NOT THAT SIMPLE>>>


Author:
Mark
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Date Posted: 00:00:48 11/04/01 Sun

Daily, we are told of some bombs dropped, a couple more cases of anthrax, and pep talk - as though that is all that is happening...
This is not the reports in other news sources around the world.
The Taliban did not just collaspe in a week, nor did we massively retaliate in blind rage(as the world cringed thinking we might).
So the politics comes. Russia has moved 250,000 troops to it's Southern border, sent some equipment and "advisors" - to it's Northern Alliance - just enough to insure a stalemate, while arranging potentially for Indian Hindus troops in Kasmier to be staged to enter Afganistan also - which would send Pakistan into chaotic riots if it supported this.
China also borders Afganistan.
The U.S. reported has moved a "limited number" of tactical nukes into the region, to make everyone a bit cautious - while the US had declined offers of troops, ground equipment and aircraft from Italy, and declined all offers from France and Germany. Notice the UK has stopped it's bombing runs now for a week or more.
Afganistan is not really "a country". It is a collection of chans and tribes whose ancient culture is built around a complex set of primative values around fighting, brokering, double-crossing, in which today's friend is tommorrow's enemy - and visa versa - in which no soldier wears a uniform, personal, clan, tribe, and culture alliances can change hourly depending upon who offers the best deal or the worst threat...
With a death rate by age 18 of nearly 50%, but with no birth control another quarter of a million men reach military age every year - and death in fighting is the most noble and honored way to die. Fathers have their children fighting in village arenas starting around age 8 to see which is tougher - gambling on the outcome.
In this, any army can roll across Afganistan - and nearly all Afganistani's will wave and cheer you - but unless you made a deal to be on their territory - expect sniper bullets, crazy sucide raiders, and other home-town actions to follow as well.
Russian loses were less than half that of the USA in Vietnam, yet 10 years of such a "war" became unbearable. Unless they just mass killed everyone, there was no enemy to beat, no army to defeat and no government to overthrow. Historically, Afganistan has never had a central government.

Point? None of this is as simple as it sounds. Neither what our press is telling us, nor "Bin Ladin's side".

My chaotic entanglement in the region - which "somehow" is producing (again) cheap oil to the West. Go figure.

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Subject: Bush


Author:
Observer
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Date Posted: 05:09:22 11/01/01 Thu

bush is the fool of his own kind i feel sorry about him

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Subject: 1000 foot mushroom cloud


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maya
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Date Posted: 19:43:56 10/30/01 Tue

did anyone hear anything about a 1000-foot mushroom cloud rising into the air in north Afganistan after 5 or 7 explosions? i heard from a friend about this who says he saw it on several networks very briefly but the reporting on this has stopped.

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Subject: Tolerance not ignorance


Author:
Jake
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Date Posted: 17:14:53 10/16/01 Tue

To be honest, the age of womanhood is 14. Muslim religion looks down on impure things such as swine, alcohol, cigarettes, etcetera. The fundamentals do not teach of killing of innocent people. Jihad means to "struggle" and not "holy war" as most people think - but it's up for arguement depending on who you speak to. The Taliban is to blame, not the Afgans as a whole. If they were educated in masses, the people would not stand for it. However, banning school is a way to control the minds of the people as they look towards religious and government leaders for guidance. Don't blame the Afgans as a whole, blame the Taliban. Rather than dropping a few thousand bomb, why not drop a few thousand pigs into the Taliban headquarters! Spike their water with JD or C&C.

Also, some UK people have buried "Muslim" terrorists with swine to curb the bombing on their territory...it worked to some extent. I work at FDNY, sometimes at ground zero at the Command Post and we lost a lot of good men, friends, and brothers. It would be so easy for me to say, "Kill them all". But I don't. To be intolerant of the people that are innocent victims in Afgan is wrong. It's the flipping corrupt government and it's supporters, the Taliban, for God sakes - not the entire population. It's the silent majority that suffer. Make the destinction, don't be ignorant. To say, "Nuke the bastards" is a mindless approach that brings no results and only reaffirms the violent actions being pursued by terrorists as violence begat violence. I agree to some extent on the bombings of the Taliban military in order to distabilize...Powell said it best when he speaks of establishing a government that represents all ethnicities after the Taliban falls. We've had a few Anthrax scares here in NYC, but I think we are on the right track.

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Subject: Taliban


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WAR
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Date Posted: 23:35:01 09/12/01 Wed

the taliban ban public laughter, applause, females aged 8 and over must be covered head to toe, and cannot attend school. cigarettes are banned, alcohol, non religious music banned, books, tv....and the list goes on. people are shot dead for disobeying these rules. or have their hands feet severed for whatever insignificant so called crime. what the fuck is this all about. they actually think god approves of this rubbish. why are we here on this earth. we should be happy, and love each other, why make life for their people such misery. who decided this was the way they have to live . an oppressive nation , with no fucking regard for humanity. i just dont understand. we should be free to learn, women should not have to wear thick heavy black garments from head to toe in unbearable heat while males are free to wear white , cooler garments.
there is no room on this earth for such intolerance, if thats what you call it. i dont Know, the mind boggles at the mentality. i know this has gone on for a very long time.
any person who supports this .......in those oppressive countries should be exterminated, wiped off the face of the earth. the world would be a much much better place.
god help the people responsible for this incompresible act of terrorism. you are about to experience the wrath of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. You have no fucking idea what is going to happen to you...you have woken a sleeping giant.

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Subject: Faggots


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Danny
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Date Posted: 22:58:27 09/12/01 Wed

All you rag head muther fuckers should die, how dare you come to our country and kill out nations people. I hope that your friend bin laden can suck on my dick and swollow my cum. I cant wait until we bomb the shit out of you. UNITED STATES will alwayls rule this planet pussy. fuck you im out

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Subject: Paz mundial


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mexicano
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Date Posted: 19:09:31 09/26/01 Wed

Vamos a votar por la Paz mundial, la libertad debe ser mundial y lo que he visto es que en Afghanistan no hay libertad, no debe haber guerra ya que la mayoria de la gente es inocente, solo detengan y juzgen al o a los culpables

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Subject: cool heads


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Date Posted: 11:43:07 09/15/01 Sat

Cool heads must previel!! Just as inoccent people died in NY and the Pentagon and in PA....lets not take our anger and rage out on inoccent people!!!!! Think America...be persice, be acurate in you anger....it is not a state it is not a relgion it is not a race.....it is the act of madmen...PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE think before you take your vengence out on more innocent people! Get Bin Laden and and the idioits running the country of afganistan!!!!
Lets not have another Vietnam!!!!!!! Been there done that!
GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!!

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Subject: help me please


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Date Posted: 13:34:34 09/25/01 Tue

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Subject: War on Afganistan


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American
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Date Posted: 19:50:10 09/20/01 Thu

Anyone in Afganistan better run for cover. You're all in BIG trouble now...

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Subject: attack on U.S..


Author:
combat engineer
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Date Posted: 15:38:56 09/13/01 Thu

of all the stupid shit to do... You all have been out in the desert to long. What kind of idiots attack the United States? I dont feel sorry for you, or what is to come of your shitty little country. You fucking rag heads messed with the wrong country. Your lives will soon be over...

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Subject: Its our turn now


Author:
Benjamin Franklin
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Date Posted: 19:49:39 09/14/01 Fri

IF THE NATION OF THE FUNDAMENTALIST ISLAM HAS CONVINCED THEMSELVES THAT SELFISH CRISTIAN AMERICANS WILL NOT DIE FOR THE CAUSE OF FREEDOM, THEY WILL SOON BE CONINCED OTHERWISE.

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Subject: Taliban, beware these words for they will be so...


Author:
Mav
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Date Posted: 15:59:09 09/13/01 Thu

Ezekiel 25:17.
"The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you."

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Subject: Attack on the U.S.


Author:
JCT
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Date Posted: 16:01:02 09/11/01 Tue

First, I pray for those who died and families of the dead to the one true God Jesus Christ.

May Jesus forgive me for the hate I feel toward Afganistan and basically every other Arab country who supports terrorism. I have such a hate in my heart right now, I hope that we strike FULL FORCE at those responsible even if it means declaring WAR on Afganistan. Give up Bin Ladin or whatever his fuckin name is or prepare to be destroyed by the most powerfull military in the world!!!

U.S. arm yourselves!!

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Subject: Pay Back


Author:
G.I. Joe
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Date Posted: 10:50:46 09/11/01 Tue

The Afgan people need to find the person or persons responsible for the acts in NY City and in Washington DC today. The reason you must find who is responsible is because the American people are looking in your direction sice you hide the #1 Terrorist on the face of the planet. I am sorry for the people who will now suffer for what has happened. You must know what we do at this point will be the will of the United States Government and not the people.

We are coming to get you now

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Subject: Taste the cold steel........Taliban!!!!


Author:
The Knight
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Date Posted: 03:31:11 09/05/01 Wed

Taliban!

Beware....and prepare to taste the cold steel if you as much as touch the western hostages in Kabul.
The eye in the sky will follow your moves.....
Revenge will be swift and bitter!!!!!

The Knight

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