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Date Posted: 02:38:33 10/29/20 Thu
Author: David
Subject: Re: Ask abput and get to know what all these screnings will be before deciding
In reply to: Peter Wollemann 's message, "Re: Ask abput and get to know what all these screnings will be before deciding" on 20:14:52 10/28/20 Wed

>Hi Peter,


I get your point of view. I know a single-mom with a first grader son. She likes to control him. He get an enema twice a week. After return from school on Wednesday and every Saturday afternoon before bed she gives him something to loose. She wants to put him to hospital one day for his first longer stay. And I support her attitude. A friend of her is a single-mom too and her son is the same age. She is very poor and we give her some money. One mom convinced the other one to join the plan.
Both kids went to ttheir ped-doc together to get their pre school exam. But the doc said that more exams should happen in a ped clinic. He recommended a bavarian one. We contacted them and spent an afternoon there for a quick check. But they asked us to wait after Corona time for the big exam. They need time and capacity for corona kids.
We went to by car but they said it will be possible to get to by ambulance cars next time when the longer stay will be.

God knows how long Corona will last so my friend decided to start earlier here and let the kids get circumcised first by an algerian pedrician who cuts boys regularly. I guess this could happen around Christmas. What a gift for the boys.

The boys don‘t know what will happen. It should be a surprise.

So thanks for your quick response.

You haven‘t answered the question yet if you or your kids ever got an exam at the hospital like that. If yes that would be great. If not I would think about an offered exam twice.Your doc knows why he offered you such an ordeal. Despite your saying:

> I don't want to go through whole-body pain, urinary
>problems and other unpleasantness again.

Such a treatment could be good for you. Many kids get these exams. See these two boys here. Just a matter of time! So if you never went through a surgeon before maybe it will be good. Please think about! What kids can stand you‘‘ll survive easely. Be mature enough to go through and you will know what kids expect.

I got my surgeon when I was seven years old.

Have a nice day.
David

>Hi David,
>
>We are all adults now, and once cured, no one has
>major problems. I've been tested several times. I
>don't want to go through whole-body pain, urinary
>problems and other unpleasantness again. That is why I
>do not want further testing and subsequent medical
>examinations.
>
>Peter
>
>
>
>>>Hi Peter,
>>
>>I don‘t get the whole story. Who should get the exam?
>>The whole family?
>>
>>I think you should be thankful and agree to this
>>offer. After you‘d been ill iby this new virus all of
>>you should have a surgeon to see what it is all
>about.
>>
>>And it is for free!
>>
>>Especially for your kids these exams are really
>>imprtant and helpful. Do they have been to such an
>>ordeal before? How old are rthey? And about you? Did
>>you ever get an exam as a kid?
>>
>>If not this could be the right time.
>>
>>I got such a treatment when I was seven years old.
>>
>>But regretably one only because we moved to another
>>town.
>>
>>I came at the hospital for a tonsil-treatment but I
>>got a whole exam and stayed there for a week.
>>
>>So I would suggest you go ahead tto get your ordeal.
>>You will see it won‘t be the end of the world. And
>>your kids will change . They will be better in school,
>>sports and arts. And there behaviour will change too I
>>guess.
>>
>>So go on and accept your faith. Get your exam. Soon!
>>
>>
>>>Thank you for your quick and unambiguous reply. Since
>>>it offers us a one-month paid stay at the
>>>rehabilitation centre in addition to covering all
>>>costs, I am under intense pressure at home, as most
>>>families would agree to the examination. Moreover,
>>>they suggest to us that this procedure could be
>>>repeated three times a year. But I don't want us to
>be
>>>guinea pigs. Moreover, I do not believe that even if
>>>they had promised us anything in advance, they would
>>>have kept it afterwards. I'm sure they'd find a way
>to
>>>put us to sleep and then justify our medical
>>>condition. In addition, under the influence of
>>>psychopharmaceuticals, they could get us to sign an
>>>amendment in which they could do whatever they wanted
>>>with us. Thank you again, and I hope to persuade the
>>>family to decline the offer.
>>>
>>>Peter
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>You should ask about and get a list of all exams or
>>>>procedures that these screenings will be.This list
>>>>should be signed, and there should be a signed
>>>>affirmation that no other exam than those listed
>will
>>>>be performed.
>>>>Also there should be told if anesthesia is planned
>to
>>>>be used and what type: just pain killing, conscious
>>>>sedation, deep sedation or general anesthesia, and
>>how
>>>>the anesthesia is planned to be given.
>>>>
>>>>Then you can decide to go or no.
>>>>
>>>>If you do not get such a complete signed list,
>reject
>>>>the proposal.
>>>>
>>>>If some of the exams will be under other anesthesia
>>>>than just analgesic or pain killing, also reject.
>You
>>>>cannot trust what they do with you when you are not
>>>>awake.
>>>>
>>>>In either case, if the list of exams indicate a
>heavy
>>>>ordeal like this described in the beginning of this
>>>>thread, I will worn against accepting.
>>>>
>>>>To me it looks like they want to use you as research
>>>>object for other purposes than your own benefit, so
>I
>>>>think this already sounds fishy.

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