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Date Posted: 15:00:36 09/10/22 Sat
Author: No name
Subject: Re: Another illustrative report
In reply to: Garr Wy 's message, "Re: Another illustrative report" on 08:34:56 09/10/22 Sat

PS to my previous response:

In these cystoscope procedures, if a semen sample from older boys is desired, my best guess is that electroejaculation is used if the boys are anesthetized anyway. It is described here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electroejaculation

and if used on human males who have not had a spinal cord injury, it is usually done under anesthesia. It would probably produce a better quality sample than prostate massage.


>A quick point or two, I (male) have to go this
>morning (at least morning here!). A moment's
>reflection will indicate the obvious; that boys have
>a much longer and more complicated urinary tract than
>girls. The male urinary tract also contains the
>prostate and mechanism for ejaculation, as well as
>urination. In other words, there is more to go wrong!
>
>On a more personal note, I myself have always, from
>my first memories had something of a problem with
>frequent urination. It's never been a really serious
>problem, but it's happened off an on since early
>childhood, and it was and is an annoyance, which has
>had me many times almost reflexively making sure there
>was a toilet or urinal available, wherever I went.
>Sometimes it is an issue and sometimes not, though it
>has never been a serious disruption. Since I have
>gotten past 60, I have also found I have something of
>a tendency toward minor prostate infections, though I
>was routinely circumcised as an infant as most
>American boys were and are, and that is supposed to
>reduce the incidence of prostate problems. Well,
>maybe it does statistically. I'll never know if it
>helped me, and I might have been worse without it,
>though I suspect these issues are more deep seated.
>
>My father had essentially the same thing, especially
>as far as the frequent urination is concerned, so
>there appears to be a hereditary component. At my
>present age, I can live with the problem, and will
>probably not make any attempts to have it corrected.
>But, by the same token, I also wonder if I might
>have been helped by some relatively minor procedure at
>a younger age.
>
>GW
>
>
>>I find your speculations very interesting and being on
>>the right path. I strongly suspect that the World
>>Health Organization is one part of interest in these
>>somewhat hidden procedures, and they hve the aim of
>>surveiling a great enough sample of kids to get an
>>answar to your question.
>>
>>I also think that your points about cystoscopy is on
>>the right path. My impression is actually after
>>reading several hundred reports, that parts of the
>>medical community already have conluded that kids at
>>certain aged should undergo a mandatory cystosopy, and
>>especially boys. These ages seem to be around 7,
>>around 12, and around 15, where the development stage
>>determine the exact age.
>>
>>It also looks like some endoscopic or sonography exam
>>through the anus of boys and vagina of girls are
>>implemented in many of these places.
>>
>>It also looks like several local communities around
>>the world or several schools has implemented this
>>mandatory systoscopy, but it does not look like any
>>complete country or state has implemented it yet.
>>
>>Based on the reports I have, it indeed look like they
>>find many problems in the urinary tract, especially in
>>boys, during these exams, which gives me the
>>impression that it is useful to let kids have a
>>routine cytosopy at these ages.

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