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Date Posted: 07:31:12 11/18/09 Wed
Author: Jenny W
Subject: Lourina Mac
In reply to: Jordan 's message, "Re: When to line breed" on 01:32:37 11/18/09 Wed

I heard some funny stories a few years ago regarding Lourina Mac from one of the old time breeders in SA. In fact this breeder was a founder of the SABT, but how true these stories are, who knows? Anyway, I found them amusing so will repeat them here for fun only.

Lourina Mac was appraised at an appraisal where a "new" system was being tried for the first time. The system reversed the current system in that the dog started with 100% and points were then deducted according to faults etc. This was meant as a try out of the system and the dog was to be appraised afterwards using the more usual system of + or -. Lourina Mac was appraised and received the amazing 96% score that he became famous for. The owner grabbed the score sheet and ran for the hills, not waiting for the dog to be reappraised under the other system, he was off like a rocket and the dog was never seen again! L Mac was obviously a prolific sire and it wasn't until some time later that it was realised that no-one had actually seen the dog for an awfully long time but he was still siring litters at the age of 15 years old! The owner "allegedly" kept the dog out of sight and any females that came to him were mated in "private". You draw your own conclusions!

All this is pure rumour and gossip imparted over a few glasses of good wine whilst sitting on a stoep surrounded by Boerboels. Just one of the stories behind the "legends" in this breed, but I do know from seeing original photos that Lourina Mac was a small dog, not heavily boned and perhaps a little Staffie like in type.

As I said I impart these stories as fun, not as fact. There's another one about a Boerboel swallowing a talking Myna bird, but that's for another day!

Jenny

>Hi Gijs
>
>Close breedings like this are supposed to lock in the
>"type" of dog you are tying to reproduce. It doubles
>up on good traits as well as bad traits. All of the
>genes can't be seen when you look at a dog and that is
>the problem.
>
>This is sort of a short cut used in breeding dogs from
>my understanding. My concern is how long can a breed
>sustain health like this. Already we have just a 80 or
>so dogs that started our breed as a pure breed. If you
>go way back in the pedigrees you see some dogs were
>bred back to their mother full brother sister mating
>father back over his daughter and so forth. Some of
>the breeding like this produced some of the top
>breeding dogs of their time. Then these dogs were used
>over and over again.
>
>This type of breeding is very popular in some bulldog
>breeding circles. In my research I found that the
>boerboel did not have this type of breeding in its
>history prior to the standardizing of the breed. At
>one point only the most useful dogs were bred and any
>breeds of dogs that could add desired traits to the
>breed were used by farmers.
>
>That is why we see so much variety in the breed. That
>is also why it is diffucult to find individuals in the
>breed that do not share common any common ancestors.
>
>Look at the dog Lourina Mac the highest scored
>boerboel ever >href="http://www.boerboels.com/pedigree/pedigree.php?S_
>ID=23&K_ID=4">http://www.boerboels.com/pedigree/pedigre
>e.php?S_ID=23&K_ID=4 He is in the my all my dogs
>pedigrees. And I have dogs different 3 different
>kennels in south africa. Does any one know what
>genetic defects Mac may have carried? I am willing to
>bet that he is mentioned at least once in 98% of all
>boerboels. Any takers?
>
>I have been seeking answer to this puzzle ever since I
>became deeply involved in the boerboel.
>
>My threads always seem to get "hijacked" by people
>looking to start trouble with me and then we get off
>track.
>
>As a breeder I want to learn from the mistakes other
>breeders and breeds have made in the past. That is why
>I am so curious about this breeding strategy.
>
>Check out these videos >href="http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=pedig
>ree+dog+exposed&search_type=&aq=5&oq=pedigree+dog">http
>://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=pedigree+dog+ex
>posed&search_type=&aq=5&oq=pedigree+dog

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  • Re: When to line breed -- Sharon B, 15:49:15 11/18/09 Wed
  • Re: When to line breed -- Jordan, 20:42:04 11/18/09 Wed
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