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Subject: maybe yes, maybe no


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Biff
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Date Posted: 07/ 2/02 9:54pm
In reply to: Damoclese 's message, "Some good points" on 07/ 2/02 1:13am

>>
>>"Of all the fallacies of everyday reasoning, one of
>>the most common is this: asking a question in such a
>>way as to presuppose the truth of some conclusion
>>buried in that question. The question is likely to be
>>rhetorical, no answer genuinely sought. But putting
>>the question, and taking it seriously often achieve
>>the questioner's purpose, fallaciously." -- Copi and
>>Cohen in "Introduction to Logic".
>
>Nice quote.

Thanks.

>The question you put forth, Damoclese, presupposes
>>that God is either not omnipotent or not bound by
>>logic.
>
>It doesn't presuppose it necessarily. It could be that
>God is omnipotent and that omnipotency is defined as
>that which can be logically done without limit.

That could indeed be the definition. However, you stated something to the effect that if we establish that God is bound by the rules of logic, there is at least one thing he can not do i.e. create a rock he cannot move, and therefore He is less than omnipotent.

Of
>course, I don't find that the Christian concepts of
>God often lend themselves to this interpretation.

Yes, sadly many people have not sufficiently explored the God they believe to be able to discuss him at any depth. Likewise, many people assert themselves athiests or Hindus or Mormons without being able to sufficiently explain why.


>>But then, perhaps logic is a purely human concept, and
>>our omnipotent God is not bound by it at all. Perhaps
>>he can make a rock so large that he cannot move it.
>>Wrap your brain around that one.
>
>It could be, but then, I suppose we could say that
>everything is merely a human concept and nothing is
>bound by what we see or think.

I suppose we could. Isn't God amazing?!

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