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Subject: OK!

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BTL

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Date Posted: 02/24/04 6:34pm
In reply to: Damoclese 's message, "Yep." on 02/24/04 11:46am

>>You speak of God as if you are on his level.
>
>No. You're wrong there. I place myself ABOVE his
>level. I'd never want to be on the same level as such
>an unethical butcher. (if there was a christian god to
>begin with) ( Hmm I think the grown up discussion has gone out of the window..I can not carry on talking to someone who says such things. I thought you were a dicerning person..I was obviously wrong oh well you cant find them all.) Its been interesting anyway.
>
>
>>To talk about gods ethics is foolery. Example Does the
>>fact that Knives have been used to murder prove that
>>no one designed them? NO.
>
>I'm glad you did my thinking for me here, but this
>analogy is faulty. God seems to indicate he's super
>mr. nice guy especially in the new testament, but
>earlier he was all genocidal. Either god is a liar, or
>he is a murderer. I prefer a third option--he isn't
>real as portrayed by the Bible.
>
>
>Do you only believe what you
>>can see? What do you really believe?
>
>I believe what I can see, and I also believe the
>evidence for things I can't directly see but can
>measure.
>
>
>>
>>People are so bent on disbelief of something they
>>themselves no nothing about.
>
>And some people arrogantly believe stuff they
>shouldn't. Have read your own posts lately?
>
>>Why not study the Bible yourself... not just read.
>
>For the same reason you likely don't study the Koran
>in depth. What would it hold out for me and my family? Does it speak of a time when all sickness, death, pain will be gone? Wars NO more, violence, poverty etc has it any relevence to what is going on in the world today? (I have never read it. What significance does the Koran have for you?
>
>>There is plenty to learn and understand. Once you have
>>done this then try disproving the Bible & God.
>
>I'm not trying to "disprove" anything. I'd like to see
>anyone "disprove" anything actually.
>
>>In fact I set you a challenge...Have a Bible study
>>with one of Jehovahs Witnesses bombard them with
>>questions and the like, I am sure after extensive
>>study you will see and disprove your own theories and
>>viewpoints.
>
>There's a theory in psychology called effort
>justification dissonance. It basically states that if
>one puts in enough effort, one will necessarily adjust
>their beliefs in accordance with that effort;
>otherwise they will feel negatively. This often works
>on people who are "undecided" about an issue.True.. but they are ones who are not resolute. I'm not
>undecided on this issue. I dont agree. I live by the Bibles teachings not by mans word alone. The Bible was not written for the intellectual only it is straight forward with regard to commandments given by God.
>
>What you propose would be tantamount to me asking you
>to have a real heart to heart with a fundamentalist
>muslim for hours on end. I'd be willing to bet neither
>of you would budge, and both of you would absolutely
>insist you were right about your corresponding
>philosophies.
>
> I would love to do it myself but I
>>probably live hundreds of miles away from you.
>
>I can only hope.
>>
>>Have you got the bottle, have you got the staying
>>power or are you too Puffed up & PROUD to give it a
>>try?
>
>I don't know. You talk to the fundamentalist Muslim
>first, and then we'll discuss my mettle. They believe in a God do they not?

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Subject	Author	Date
What they teach in JW school	Damoclese	02/24/04 8:57pm
Excuse me -- BTL, 02/24/04 9:49pm No excuse for ya -- Damoclese, 02/25/04 8:22am