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| Subject: Hello this is a very interesting group | |
Author: Elisabeth [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 05:57:48 03/23/24 Sat Hello I am Elisabeth from Germany, I am 42 years old. I am happy to have found this good group where there are still parents who are strict parents. We have a son who is already 22 years old. He lives in our house and therefore has strict rules. We pay a lot of attention to his behavior and conduct. If he doesn't behave, he still gets a spanking from me. Occasionally he still needs it. I look forward to good conversations in the group [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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| Subject: Importance of schedule and strict discipline | |
Author: Siobhan [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 16:51:43 03/20/24 Wed Hello Together with my husband we are raising three daughters who are 7,10 and 13. I have been brought up in a Christian family, the family that have believed in a deep love and strict discipline. I loved reading many wonderful threads here, and I would love to give back to community. I have gotten asked a few questions about spanking and managing our day from Samantha and Terrence, I hope to shed some light and intricate details with you by writing this post. The other day I had a wonderful discussion with my sister. We talked about importance of being organised and providing for our children. I thought about sharing with you our routines, but also our approach to spanking itself. The post might turn out to be quite lengthy, but I believe that it can be insightful for some, and I would love nothing more but to hear back about your days. First, and foremost I believe to be a loving and deeply cherishing mother. I do everything I can to fulfil my children’s lives with as much joy as I can. The second thing about me, is that I am strict, I punish my girls often and severely, and I oversee every aspect of their lives. I except obedience and I do not tolerate talking back. Our typical school day starts for my daughters at 6AM. My husband prepares the breakfast and I wake up our girls. The day starts with morning prayer and a warm meal eaten together. While our three sleepy pumpkins finish off their plates, I prepare fresh clothes in the dressing room for each one of them. I choose the clothes for them simply because it is easier to manage and schedule laundry when girls wear matching colours and material types. Once everything is ready, I call my girls to the bathroom. In the past we had tried to schedule their turns, but that had let to many problems, fights and spanking that could have been avoided. Now I collect my daughter’s nightshirts at the entrance, and they go in together. We have renovated the bathroom with bigger sink so they can wash together. I oversee my daughter’s hygiene making sure that they do not split out the toothpaste after 10 seconds, and I give each one a quick shower myself, washing off nightly sweat. My oldest is quite independent already, but her two younger sisters often forget one thing or another. I help them towel and we go together to the dress room, where girls get dressed for school. I have to say that our current routine where girls are together under my watchful eye works much better from our previous routine where we tried to make queues to bathroom. My girls go to school and my husband, and I go to work. I am always home first, and I take the cooking duty. After school, girls are allowed to stay and play with their friends. Few times a week my husband finishes his work earlier and he takes the girls out for an important daughter-father bonding time. 4:30PM is the curfew for all of them. When girls come home, I expect them to change their school clothes and wash their hands. We eat at 5PM. After we are done it is time for girls to finish their homework and study until 7PM, when I start preparing girls to bed starting from the youngest. I believe that although the time spent together is extremely valuable, each child needs a one on time. Each girl gets an hour with me, where we are alone and they often tell me their little “secrets”, and other things. I ask how they feel, how was their day if anything good happened, anything bad. It is very important time for them and for me. Hour by hour I repeat the same routine with each one. I take my daughter to the dressing room, where I help her undress, and we go to the bathroom where a hot bath is already waiting for her. I help her wash making sure to teach her good hygiene habits. Usually when my daughter sits reflexed in the bathtub is when they are the most open and honest with me. I always include a lot of tickles beside the washing to make the experience fun for them. Then I wrap a given daughter in her bath towel, and I lead her to bedroom. The youngest is still small enough to be carried 😊. In their bedroom our roles change. I have listen to my daughters first, and now it is time for them to listen to me. I praise good behaviour, and I punish daily any minor disobedience with hand spanking. When any of my daughters shows attitude during the day, there is some minor back talking, and so on, I give them a hand spanking at bedtime. Those minor spankings are not severe, but they happen almost every other day. It is rare for my husband to not hear at least one of the girls crying and begging me to stop. Yes, crying. It is a spanking, not just a pat or two on their bottoms. I explain my girls what they had done wrong, I unwrap their towels, and I lay them over my lap. Usually, I am satisfied with making them cry, and then I spank for additional minute or two. The spanking finishes with me soothing my daughters in my embrace and helping them dress for the night. I do not allow any underwear nor socks to bed. I believe that skin at night has to breath, and my girls go to bed wearing only longer night shirts, or gowns during the winter. Once a week, sometimes two, depending on our daughter’s behaviour, they receive a major spanking for the things they had done wrong. The major spanking is scheduled the next day, and we have to do some changed to our day to give our daughter enough time for her disciplinary session. I had spanked my oldest daughter yesterday. Amelia had been rude to the teacher, and she have come home with a red note. Right after dinner I gave my daughter her usual bath, but instead of her bedroom we went to the living room where dad was waiting. My oldest daughter is very scared of being spanked, and she never follows instructions. After a scolding I asked her to take off her towel and bend over the sofa arm. Nothing. I asked firmer, Amelia please bend over the arm and lay on your father’s lap. Still nothing. I had to take her arm and lead her to the sofa, and then push on her back gently to make her lie over. It always earns her a bonus. Once she fell chest first on her daddy’s lap he held her hands away with one hand, and pulled her further up, until her feet could no longer touch the ground. I gently lifted my daughter and I put a sturdy pillow underneath her belly, so her bottom was higher than her head. I have bought what is basically a piece of rubber on a stick. Quite similar to the hairbrush in size. A small handle, a bit narrow, about 2 inches wide, 5 inches long, and quite fat actually. The first layer is soft, incredibly smooth, but then it feels sturdy. When the package arrived and I tapped it against my skin I knew it will be quite an upgrade, but it was way more than that. I keep the rubber part well maintained and oiled. It is moist to the touch. I love this implement. It does not just sting. It burns. Even a light tap hurts a lot. Yet, it is gentle on the skin. A perfect tool for long spankings. When I placed the rubber against my daughter’s bottom, she burst crying in full trying to break free. Sadly, for her, she couldn’t budge an inch from her position. I spank meticulously. I applied the first layer of swats all around my daughter’s bottom, but also halfway to her knees. Using my left hand I often pull the skin on her bottom to have a better access to all the crevasses, spanking just under her bottom is truly painful. I also spread her legs apart and I spanked the inside part of a thigh. Just under the groin, making my way downwards. It usually takes a minute to mark all the areas with delicate shade of pink. My daughter spanking lasted around 15 minutes, and by the end of it all those areas turned crimson red. My daughter went through all the usual stages of the spanking. Crying, begging me to stop, begging daddy to let her go, kicking her legs, shivering. Around 10th minute mark she finally gave up her fighting and accepted the rest of her punishment. Mostly whimpering quietly, but I did include repeated swats that landed on the same place until she howled in pain on few occasions. Once I was done with the spanking part I gave Amelia a deep embrace. She cried for a minute with her face in my chest, and then she went to her dad for additional cuddles and soothing, while I attended to her sisters, following up with the routine I have told you about earlier. My husband soothed Amelia in her hands until she stopped crying. Then he carried her like a little princess to the bathroom again for a quick shower, and she got another fairy trip to her bed. Amelia was not allowed to dress just yet, she went straight to bed, and my husband stayed with her until she fell asleep. Today in the morning I woke Amelia last while everyone was already in the kitchen getting ready to eat. Still naked I marched Amelia to the kitchen. She had to tell everyone why she had been punished day before. Then she had to tell them how she would repair her mistake (by apologising to the teacher). Finally, she led our morning prayers, and I pulled her night-shirt over her head, and helped her dress. Her punishment was over, and I do have a rule that kids have to be dressed at the table. This is how we spank and organise our day. Even our youngest daughter is spanked with the same rubbery tool, but I do adjust the spankings length and severity to the crime, but also child’s age. Our weekends are just about the same. The only exception is that instead of school we partake in many Church activities with other families. But often we like to spend our time only as family and we take our children to the park, or we organise a small trip. Thank you for reading, I would love to hear back from you, and I wish you and your family all the best. Sincerely, Siobhan [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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| Subject: Removing the punishment diapers | |
Author: Linda [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 23:09:53 06/04/24 Tue Hi to all of you. We are a homeschooling Christian Family. Me and my husband belive in strict discipline and make sure our girls stay in line. Latley we have a problem with the older girl she is 13 and beside spankings we use diapers for punishments but lately she often remove her diapers . Additional spankings havent helped so far. How do other parents handle that problem how use diapers for punishment as well ? And what additional punishments you add of they remove the diapers ? [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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| Subject: Combination of spankings and diaper punishments | |
Author: Linda [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 02:18:37 03/30/24 Sat Hello to all of you and God Bless you all. I came along this Forum and I would like to get a part of it. I am Linda 44 married to Jim 45. We are heaving two kids a boy Dennis he is 11 and a girl Annika she is 13. We live in a small town in Austria . We are a religious Christian Family and we belive in strict discipline. In our church we have several parents believing in the same values so we share and talk about our discipline ways. We decided to homeschool our kids. My husband has a very good job so there is no need I have to go to work full time. I work night shifts on the weekends only I am a nurse. I looked around the forum and saw that a lot of you also belive in punishment spankings as well as maintenance spankings we do the same . We also are firm believer in diaper punishments both kids got started with diaper punishments at the age of 6. Currently our daughter spend a lot of times in diapers with a sore bottoms from spankings she is in a rebellious age right now. Would like to talk with other likeminded parents. Happy Easter to all of you Love Linda [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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| Subject: New here | |
Author: Kayla [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 21:25:08 03/31/24 Sun I am a Christian wife of a wonderful Hoh we believe the Bible and Home school our 5.children all veiled 13 11 9 and two 7 year old twins we use a paddle like they use in the youth and children’s ministry at Church . I also can get spanked if needed but it is not needed often . I was raised by a single mom my dad died when I was 6 month old . My mom and this Church raised me . My husband does family devotions every morning before breakfast after breakfast he goes to work I start home school . [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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| Subject: Re: Spanking toddlers | |
Author: Carol A [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 16:22:17 06/14/24 Fri Hi Kathy. Bless you hon. I am new to the board. So, I have no idea when you will read my comment. Divorced Christian mom here. I am 68. Grew up in a very strict home. I raised my two in a strict home. Once you read my greetings to you give me a reply if you like. Hugs Blessings [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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| Subject: Seeking a supportive church in the UK | |
Author: Anne [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 19:26:26 05/27/24 Mon Hi, New to the forum and newly married. I’m based in the U.K. with my hubby and would like to seek a supportive church community in the U.K. (Wales). Thanks! [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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| Subject: Introduction | |
Author:  Emmayoung[ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 08:49:50 05/05/24 Sun I just joined this blessed forum and am looking forward to interacting with other parents who were raised like me and raise their kids the same Life’s lessons are best learned bare and over a lap I am 46 and a widowed mom from Illinois Last edited by author: Tue May 14, 2024 11:48:12
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| Subject: Disciplinary kit | |
Author: Sandra [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 09:23:19 03/21/24 Thu Hello everyone and bless you! Christian mother of one eight year old boy here. Does anyone use a bag where they keep things for the discipline? For me it's a small sports bag with the essentials inside. Of course I don't take it to the mall or church, but for example on longer trips or family visits. Things like: A risotto spoon Baby wet wipes soap Lexan paddle Babyoil Baby cream [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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| Subject: Hi! Glad found this board and group of like minded. | |
Author: Carol A [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 16:33:50 06/12/24 Wed Hello I am Carol A from USA. I am 68 years old. Very happy to have found this good group. I have referred many moms to it. Hopefully, they will come and introduce themselves. It is refreshing to know there are still parents to are strict. Bringing their kids up in a good christian home. Where discipline is given when needed. Kids today are in need of discipline! I am divorced Baptist mom. Two boys. I gave OTK spankings when needed. Hand on bare. My mom and aunt gave spankings. Aunt was a nurse. I also look forward to good conversations in the group [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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| Subject: Disciplinary baths | |
Author: Kate [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 12:42:19 03/04/24 Mon Mouth soaping has been discussed here before. But is there anyone else, that does not only soaps mouths but also bathes their older kids? We like our kids 8 and 10 to be nice and clean especoally before a spanking. But may also give them standalone from time to time, to put them back in place. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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| Subject: New Member - Male HoH stepfather | |
Author: StrictAlan[ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 06:26:53 03/20/24 Wed Hello everyone! I'm a new member to this forum. I'm so glad to have found a safe place with like-minded parents that believe in family discipline and punishment. I'm the stepfather to a Christian family. I met my wife at our church a year or so after she was widowed due to a drunk driver. She had three children already and I am proud to call them my family now. We are traditional in our values and literal when obeying the Bible's directives. She is a completely submissive micromanaged wife that is spanked and corrected as well. Ww homeschool, have family bible study time, correction and spanking regularly. I'm very interested in getting to know all of you and sharing our experiences. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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| Subject: Intro, Christy | |
Author: Christy [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 16:21:47 03/26/24 Tue Good evening. I stumbled across this forum and thought I'd introduce myself before contributing more. I live in a lovely suburban area of Oklahoma with my son. We have a great community here, and I don't picture ever leaving. I do discipline my son as needed which (knock on wood) has been less frequent in the last couple of months. My late husband who passed a few years ago used to be responsible for all the discipline. Naturally that had to change. He used to spank me pretty regularly too. While I think I've done a reasonable job assuming the position of disciplinarian, I do find myself often thinking "He'd be giving me a spanking that" or reflexively thinking "that's a bathbrush spanking". I try not to dwell on it too much. Don't get me wrong - I truly despised the spankings as they were happening, but they did give me a sense of security in a way, and they certainly helped me behave at my best. I do not plan on ever getting remarried (or dating), so perhaps my days of being spanked are past me. Maybe posting here or otherwise chatting with some of you all will provide a kind of support in the absence of having a HOH. I look forward to contributing and hearing from you all. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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| Subject: Advice to guide my sister on spanking her daughter | |
Author: Isabella [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 15:56:35 03/10/24 Sun Hello all, I have a question, and a very important meeting ahead of me. To tell you about myself, I’m Isabella a mom to 14 year old son, who still needs to be spanked frequently. I believe that my spanking is as straightforward as it gets. Always on bare bottom, with my hand, and then with the oak hairbrush. Many hugs afterwards. My son is horrified being spanked. It’s embarrassing for him, and I admit, my spankings are long and painful. I have a much younger sister who has 9 year old daughter, and she does not spank her. As a matter of fact, the discipline in their house is almost non-existent, and Julia takes an advantage of that. Let me tell you why we are so different in our discipline methods. I had been raised by a spanking mother. Hand, and hairbrush on my bare bottom. I had been spanked between ages 5 to 16, where I had gotten my last spanking. My sister had been 6 at the time, and it’s funny because she had gotten her first, official, bare bottom, over the mom’s lap hand spanking. Following year, I believe she had a round over mom’s lap almost every week. It was quite typical. At 17, because I used to look after my sister often and she did not listen to me, mom allowed me to spank her myself. At first, I was holding back, but I quickly learned that my merciful approach resulted in poor discipline. Progressively I spanked my sister longer and harder, more often too. The situation lasted for 2 years. Our parents died in a car accident. I could not get a custody of my sister being 19 myself. Our aunt took us under her wing. It was difficult time for both of us, especially my 9 year old sister. Everything changed about our lives. Discipline as well. My mom had been the only one who had spanked among our family. My aunt did not spank my sister. She forbade me from spanking her too. After our tragedy my sister became reserved, and she rarely got into any trouble. There was a naughty period in her life, and my aunt solved it with lots, and lots of talking and taking away her privileges. Now, my sister is hesitant to spank Julia. The spanking in her own life stopped abruptly, and she cannot admit that it was good for her. She vaguely remembers it all. Julia is a sweet, lovely girl but she is also a brat. Always in trouble. Nothing works on her, and I have been having a hard time convincing my sister that she needs to be spanked. Preferably with the hairbrush already. There was an incident at her school. Julia has gotten in a fight and scratched her classmate’s cheek badly in the process. Well, girls always have hated each other, but the situation has been an eye opening moment for my sister. It’s a touchy subject, and I want to write a lot of notes for my sister and explain her everything. I worry that otherwise I could have skipped something important. After years spanking is a day like any other for me and I do not need to think a lot about it. I thought about asking other people how my sister could have spanked her daughter. I will be honest with you I don’t have friends nor family who use spanking, and you never know, maybe I will learn a thing or two myself. I would love to spank Julia myself, to show the ropes for my sister, but I truly believe that such an important first spanking is mother’s responsibility. I just hope that my sister will agree to my proposal and do everything right. I know that my sister lacks knowledge in spanking, but also a proper lecture. One that is done calmly from a position of authority. I hope to include my process in steps, and I thought that having a greater perspective would be nice too. By the end of it I want my sister to know how to lecture, bare, spank, and cuddle afterwards with her daughter. I have always been spanking my son in bedroom, so although my sister could have heard his screams on few occasions, she has never gotten to witness it. If you have any advice that would be great. If you could have written how you would have dealt with Julia that would be even better. I would love to hear how you lead from step to step resulting in a properly spanked bottom, and brighter future. Thank you all, have a good day. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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| Subject: Family Update | |
Author: Jen [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 06:21:12 05/29/24 Wed It’s been a while since I gave a long update. The boys, Charlie 5, Nick 7, and Henry 10, have been doing great with their First Time Obedience (FTO). They say “yes mommy” when their name is called, maintain eye contact, smile and obey immediately while smiling. We are now allowing Henry to appeal any order by asking, “may I please appeal?” If we say yes then he can state his appeal. If we say no then he must follow the order. Nick and Charlie are not allowed to appeal yet. Henry (10) - Henry has been doing good. He got good grades this year wrapping up 4th grade. He is playing baseball and soccer. He will be attending a day camp this summer. He is finally dry at night and stopped wearing Goodnites a couple of months ago. As I mentioned earlier he is doing good with FTO and is now allowed to appeal commands. He is averaging two spankings per month. Nick (7) - oh Nick! He’s my difficult guy. But he’s also my most lovable. He loves to cuddle and hug and kiss. He is also playing baseball and soccer. He just finished first grade with pretty good grades. I’ve written before about his bathroom issues; bedwetting, peeing his pants, skid marks, etc. He was wearing Pull-Ups at home and was on a potty schedule at school. We worked really hard this year on these issues with rewards and punishments we were able to get him dry and clean during the day. He stopped wearing his Pull-Ups (still wears a diaper at night). Unfortunately that ended over Memorial Day weekend. I noticed he was wearing different shorts from what I dressed him in. He claimed to have spilled juice on them and changed. Nope, the truth is he peed and hid the shorts and underwear. He was spanked for lying and given two weeks in diapers for hiding the wet clothes. We went to the lake over the weekend and he even had to wear a Huggies Little Swimmer diaper under his swimsuit. He’s obviously not happy about this but he hasn’t put up a fight so there’s been no additional punishments like baby bottles, pacifiers or spankings. Charlie (5) - he’s the quiet one. He’s playing soccer and will be entering kindergarten. We are working hard on FTO with him. He’s young and still learning. But its results in a lot of punishments. He wet at night and wears a diaper too. He’s pretty good about daytime accidents, unlike Nick, but still occasionally wears a Pull-Up for long road trips for a just in case. On Saturday he did earn some pacifier time. On the drive home from the lake he was whining and complaining and just being bratty. I gave him a pacifier and told him he will be spanked every time it left his mouth. He kept it in his mouth like a good boy! It’s funny, on the way home from the lake we stopped at Chick-fil-A for dinner. I told Charlie to keep his pacifier in while there. So we are standing in line and my 7 year old has that distinct boxy diaper butt under his basketball shorts and my 5 year old has a pacifier in his mouth. Needless to say we got a couple of odd looks. Anyway, all 3 have 8:30 bedtimes and daily chores over summer break too. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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| Subject: late home | |
Author: michael [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 06:02:17 06/15/24 Sat my daughter helen often rides her bike with her friend around my estate especially weekends.at the age of seven i have had a good talk with regarding her safety as best i could without scaring her.i expect her to only ride where i know she could be and come home when i say so.late friday afternoon she went out to play with her friend from school.i made it clear to helen that i wanted her home before five oclock.at six thirty she still hadnt returned.i contacted her friends mother who like me was concerned.she said that they had both just come back to her home and helen would be home shortly.at six forty five helen hurried down the drive knowing daddy would be extremely unhappy.the moment she entered the back door i took her hand and took her to her bedroom where i lectured her for quite some time about my concern for her.she pleaded for me not to place her over my lap but it made no difference.i feel i was totally justified spanking helen.and believe me she wont be coming home late again for quite some time.at her age i expect her home roughly the time i tell her. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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| Subject: Re: A fresh start to discipline | |
Author: Carol A [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 16:38:50 06/12/24 Wed Hi Bailey, glad you are here. Im new to this board. Divorced mom. 68. Two boys. I administered spankings as needed. Wondering if you commented on another board? Forgot the name of the board. But discussed the benefits of the home enema. If not, sorry hon. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| Subject: How come parents never spanked me just yelled at me | |
Author: John [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 04:23:26 06/17/24 Mon I am now a 24 year old man and as I read these posts most parents spank. When I was younger from ages 10 to 16 my step mother never spanked me for misbehavior she just yelled at me. I would use foul language to her answer her back and never did what I was told. I cannot figure why she would not give me a spanking for this behavior just yelled at me. Would any mothers on this board would have handled this differently or would they have done what my step mother did just yelled and hoped for the best? just wondering. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| Subject: Re: The paddle | |
Author: Alfred22 [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 09:07:57 06/09/24 Sun This is an important question, Andrea. What did you get? I suspect that it was over both. >Over skirt or trousers? [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
| Subject: Tips to help my daughter keep in position | |
Author: Samantha [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 12:03:02 03/16/24 Sat Hello My name is Samantha, and I am very pleased to meet you. I am a mother to a 11 year old girl. Since her earliest days she has been brought up with spankings. Lately her behaviour has become unacceptable, and I have been looking for a solution to change that. My dear friend at church, an older lady in fact, advised me to use an implement on my daughter's bottom. She has told me that my hand spankings are simply not severe enough now that my daughter is older. I have done a lot of research, and I have decided to use the cane after hand spanking. Yesterday I have given it a try, but it is not working as well as I have thought it would. As usual I have taken off my daughter's clothes, and I hand spanked her for quite some time. I have instructed her to bend over the back of the chair, and rest her hands on the seat. I had thought that this position would be feasible, but I have not taken into account just how much the cane would have stung my daughter. She followed my instructions, but when I have given her a first stroke she instantly straightened up and covered her bottom with her hands. I had to put her back into position over, and over again after each stroke. With each stroke it was becoming harder to do so, because she did not want to be punished any longer. Half way through I decided that it was not working, and her punishment is on hold. Can you recommend me a better position to put my daughter in, or do you have any tips how to keep her in position? Thank you for consideration. I have to say that I am pleased with the cane otherwise. Finally I am getting a sincere reactions out of my daughter. [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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| Subject: Is This Forum Still Active? | |
Author: Jen [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 16:08:17 04/16/24 Tue I haven’t seen any activity for awhile and I made some posts a few weeks ago but never saw them actually post [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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| Subject: Christian Family Discipline | |
Author: spanking dad (Well-deserved spaanking) [ Edit | View ] |
Date Posted: 21:35:05 04/23/24 Tue How often do mother and daughter receive bare bottom discipline with a leather strap or holey wooden paddle? [ Post a Reply to This Message ] |
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