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Date Posted: 07:42:17 12/30/25 Tue
Author: Marc
Subject: Re: How do I get started?
In reply to: Lion-Tamer 's message, "Re: How do I get started?" on 09:18:33 12/29/25 Mon

>That's a goal I'm heading for, especially with the
>younger one I just don't want to jump to it too
>quickly and have pushback.
>
>Do you have any recommendations for underwear, right
>now his are things like mario, Minecraft, spongebob
>and sonic, would you say these are out of the age
>range we want?
>Also why feminine undies, will this have an effect at
>all?
>
>
>>>Thank you for the explanation, I have started this,
>>>days they have been with us have been a bit patchy
>but
>>>now we have them for a long block, 26th to the 9th.
>>>I've started slow as you advised, the focus has been
>>>on the 7 year old just pull-ups for bed after the
>>>nightly bath so far. I got him onesie PJs for
>>>Christmas, so when he's ready for the next step we
>can
>>>start using them. No wet pull-ups, which is pretty
>>>much what I expected as he hasn't bedwet before, but
>>>no protests when I put them on.
>>>
>>>Both boys have reached a point where they let me wipe
>>>them, the 7 year old will whisper to me that he has
>to
>>>poop, it's very cute. The 10 year old is more
>>>secretive, I have to watch for the signs of him
>>>sneaking off upstairs then follow.
>>>
>>>Does this sound like we are on the right lines, how
>>>long until I should add the sleeper to the bedtime
>>>routine, is there signs I should look for that he's
>>>ready for the next stage? I know after that for a
>>>while I should assist with the toilet trips but is
>>>there a specific point I should step back?
>>>
>>>Social services have visited and looked at our
>>>situation, they are not currently taking things
>>>further, we didn't deny we spank, they didn't seem
>too
>>>concerned with the living situation.
>>>Thanks In advance
>>>
>>>Now you have that established . Maybe start with a
>>bib and feeding them at meal times . Maybe a bottle
>>last thing at night with a pacifier . Change the
>>youngest's underwear for something more babyish and
>>feminine .
>>
>>
>>>>I agree with Anne I do think you need a more
>>nurturing
>>>>approach to the younger child. The kids are at
>>>>different stages and the older one seems to be the
>>>>instigator from.the information you have given.
>>>>Continue as you are with the 10 year old.
>>>>
>>>>With the younger boy I would start with pull-ups at
>>>>night. its a new rule, explain you have new sheets
>>and
>>>>would like him to wear it just in case To protect
>>>>them.
>>>>I don't know how often you have custody but the
>first
>>>>step is drilling into him the routine, bath time,
>>>>followed by pull-ups.
>>>>
>>>>He won't use them at first and that's okay. It's
>just
>>>>gently getting him compliant, pull-ups "just in
>>case".
>>>>
>>>>Then invest in a sleeper, one he will find difficult
>>>>to remove, the goal is to have him need to come and
>>>>tell you when he has to "go potty". It will mean for
>>a
>>>>few nights before he goes to bed and in the night
>>>>you'll be woken to take him. Then you can start
>>having
>>>>him wait until you are "not busy" to take him. Tell
>>>>him to wait until morning if you are woken at night.
>>>>At this point you can switch from pull-ups to
>diapers
>>>>and extend the amount of time he is in the sleeper,
>a
>>>>few hours before bed and after he wakes up.
>>>>
>>>>Very slow.



Considering that you are sharing custody this all has to be done very gradually. A sleeper which he can't get out of will be essential, that will mean he learns to depend on you when he needs the bathroom. He's already telling you when he has to poop so that's a good sign. For now carry on with bathing and pull-ups, Introduce the sleeper as new PJ's, he will realize he can't use the bathroom without help very quickly and for the first few days help him when he asks, even during the night.

Then stop doing it, make him wait for you to not be busy, if he wakes you at night tell him to hold it until morning.
eventually he will have to use the pull-up.

You need to do this gradually so it isn't a sudden change.

I also agree with Anne, try and get him wearing Peppa Pig, Bluey, Dora underwear, all aimed younger and less aggressive than what his brother has. later on this can expand to everyday clothing, but right now it needs to be gentle changes.

The bottle and bib and things will have to come much later, shared custody means small steps otherwise the other parent will kick up trouble.

The next step will be the sleeper after his bath and him asking you for help with it when he has to go to the bathroom. After that you start making him wait to go.

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