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Date Posted: 21:44:57 02/18/03 Tue
Author: GOSTAGS
Subject: Harbor Yard attendance numbers for 2002-2003

Just thought it would be interesting to compare this years and last years attendance numbers.....anyone or JoeStag have last years numbers?

here are this year's:

Harvard- 3242 friday night ( opening night)
St. J - 5277 Sat night
UNC W - 1412 Mon night
Iona - 1712* snow game (probably tix sold) Thurs night
Amer. - 1776 ironic number don't ya think? Sun day
Yale - 2537 sun day
Loy - 1460 wed night
Man - 5251 Thurs night
St. P.- 2523 Sun day
Siena - 2504 Thurs night
Can - 2079 Thurs night
Niag - 2459 Sun day
Marist - 3023 sat day ( alumni winer homecoming)
Rider - 1043* (blizzard -tix sold)"Debacle Game"

Total attendance - 36,298 that's 2593 per game (14 total)average
if you take out the two snow games attendance but keep the game ( total 33,543 divide by 14)because no one was there we average 2396 per game

highest - St.J 5277
lowest( not counting snow games) - UNC W - 1412

I would have loved to see our numbers more around the 3500 mark this year...I wonder if there is a "projected plan" for marketing and tix sales over the next couple of years?..... We had more weekend games this year than last and that is one reason why I am curious to see last year's numbers. I hope our numbers are up from last year but my guess is that they are probably not up by much.....don't want to get caught up with attendance numbers before we end the regular season and a very big game coming up on Sat. but I thought it would be interesting to look at.

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[> Keep the faith. Siena's numbers from The Pepsi. -- soup, 22:33:38 02/18/03 Tue

You guys should strive for 3000 next year. Don't you guys have Dook coming in? That'll give you a sellout. 3500 is a big step from 2500....that's a 40% increase. Baby steps. Of course, winning will put fannies in the seats. Maybe FF can appeal to local alumni a little more to get a stronger season ticket count. Seems like you guys have about 1000 season ticketholders - given yesterdays "paid attendance". Siena was always getting 3500+ on campus, and stayed at that number for at least three years when they moved all of the games to The Pepsi. I remember about 3,000 on hand for Siena's win over Davidson in 1997 - real coming out party for Hewitt & co. - Saints put up about 100 points, won by 20 and before you knew it, we had 5,000 in the seats. It's going to take some time, but it will be worth the wait. Lots of variables to deal with. You guys getting 4000 is like Siena getting 8000, given the size of the arenas. Here are Siena's numbers:

Univ. at Albany 11672
Northern Iowa 5544
Canisius 6638
Delaware 5125
Xavier 10671
Providence 8875 (in a pretty good snow storm)
Iona 6791
Fairfield 6434
Loyola 5654
Marist 7015
Ryder 5059
Niagara 6647

Totals: 86,125, 7177 per game.

Two games left. Should get 6000 for SPC and 7500 for Manhattan. Saints are just going to miss 100,000 for the season.


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[> [> Good Analysis -- JoeStag, 08:07:15 02/19/03 Wed

GOSTAGS, good analysis

If you take oput the 2 Snow games, we averaged 2,800.... still down from the 2,900 of last year, which included the "Hostage Game". However you look at it we were down 300-400 fans/game. I would describe our attendance situation as follows:

- We have 2,500 dedicated fans that will attend weekend games
- We have 2,000 dedicated fans that will attend weekday games
- For special games we can get 4000-5000 fans
- Our season tickets need to increase, as that directly affected our attendance this year
- Consistent winning will gradually bring up attendance
- We need to schedule smarter. The Monday after Thanksgiving is a disaster date. And if we are to do Weekend games, we MUST be conscious of Giants/Jets games along with NFL playoff games. Suggestion, start the game at NOON on a weekend if Giants are playing at 4PM

With all that said I was most disapointed with the Homecoming attendance of only 3,000+. Some serious Marketing of our Alumni has to ge done.

Focus on Season Tickets and Alumni Marketing.


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[> [> [> Focus on Winning -- Stags83, 13:16:04 02/19/03 Wed


Its all about winning. Need to have 2-3 more 16-20 win years and then we can expect 5000 per night.

As mentioned prior its hard to focus on season tickets. 2 games were played this year, where it was difficult to attend unless you lived close to B-port. Right now it is fiscally prudent to buy the cheap seats at the door for the games where driving isn't hazardous and sit where you want.

Seasons tix will increase when the team gets better, people want to guarantee themselves a tix and people want to make sure they get a good seat.


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[> [> Re: Keep the faith. Siena's numbers from The Pepsi. -- fastbreak, 08:50:27 02/19/03 Wed

11,000 for the Siena-Albany game? Interesting how attractive a back yard rivalry can be. Wonder how a FF-Sacred Heart game would draw at the Arena? Food for thought for the schedule-makers.


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[> Re: Harbor Yard attendance numbers for 2002-2003 -- Stag 92, 20:26:36 02/19/03 Wed

GOSTAGS (or brother in-law) good to see you took my advise and put this on the board. However you slice it (and I wonder we you got the averaging ideas, high/low, etc) this utterly sucks. I will continue buying season tickets, primarily because I enjoy college hoops immensely and am rooting for TOT and Fairfield. I would love to hear our marketing plan from Bridgesports. I could certainly spin the above numbers other ways and show you that without St. Johns and Manhattan, it was much worse. My guess is that besides any big-time teams or good mid-majors (and we don't even draw for those - reference UNCW), we will again draw 2,500 to 2,700 per game in the MAAC next year. Students, you should all be ashamed of yourselves and the administration should comment on why there is no student interest. WE DON'T HAVE HOMECOURT ADVANTAGE!!!!! WE ARE CAUGHT IN A CATCH 22 - IT HELPS RECRUITING BUT DENIES THE PLAYERS A HOMECOURT ADVANTAGE. IT IS GOOD FOR WATCHING A GAME IN A COMFORTABLE SEAT WITH A COLD ONE IN HAND. BIG PROBLEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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