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Date Posted: 10:11:34 01/19/03 Sun
Author: Threepointer
Subject: Re: Question
In reply to: Running Man 's message, "Question" on 09:48:34 01/19/03 Sun

How many games in our history have we ever one in the NCAA tourney? 1 - 2? C'mon now... We're going to get there...

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[> [> 2? / 3? -- STAGAL, 10:20:18 01/19/03 Sun

Running Man, don't you think the question should be how many it takes to GET INTO the NCAA's. As Descartes would say, "put da horse BEFORE da cart". It would all depend upon our seed. The true measure of this team will be seen in the next 4 days. After all, is this: the stags, or THE STAGS?!?


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[> [> [> Top Seed: A Double Edged Sword? -- Stagman, 11:23:41 01/19/03 Sun

Not far fetched at all to think the Stags could get the top seed in the MAAC tourney. Let's say they go 8-4 the rest of the way and finish #1 at 14-4 in the MAAC. Their record would be 18-9 going into the tourney.

Their first game would be, in all likelihood, against someone like Siena, Iona or Manhattan, since they would get two byes and not get two games against bottom tier teams.

Let's say they lose. They are then 18-10. Do they get an NIT bid? They are MAAC regular season champs, but because of not having 1-2 'easier' games, and presumably wins, to start the tournament, they were not able to move toward that coveted 20-win level, which would virtually guarantee an NIT bid.

I know I am thinking too far into the future, but could finishing first actually be a hindrance to an NIT bid? Obviously, we want a #1 seed, and obviously we want to win the tournament, but given the past history of MAAC tournaments, a #1 seed is no guarantee of going to the Big Dance. If they continue their winning ways, I'd hate to see them end up with nothing to show for it at the end of the season if they lost in the MAAC tourney. Thoughts?


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[> [> [> [> Re: Top Seed: A Double Edged Sword? -- Stagalong, 13:11:25 01/19/03 Sun


Also, you are playing a team that won the day/night before so has a little momentum. Top seed has only a Sun/Mon tournament. Not a lot of time to get something going.


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[> [> [> [> [> Re: Top Seed: A Double Edged Sword? -- 79er, 16:15:51 01/19/03 Sun

Had we beaten Charleston Southern...
Still, why would you want to play two games when losing one means you're out. Always appreciate a bye.


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[> [> [> [> [> [> Re: Top Seed: A Double Edged Sword? -- jenningsbeach, 17:05:12 01/19/03 Sun

Agree completely. If our goal is to make the NCAA tournament, let's take the path of least resistance. No. 1 seed all the way.


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: Top Seed: A Double Edged Sword? -- JCM, 00:13:29 01/20/03 Mon

I think the new seeding arrangement in the tournament does make it easier for the number one seed to advance. However, if the number one seed does lose in the finals there chances for an at large birth or an NIT appearance our hurt by the fact that they now play less games against easier opponents and will have one or two less wins than before. I liked the old format better. Siena ran the table and desired to go to the tournament. This new format won't stop things like that from happening. When Fairfield was seeded last (eighth) and ran the table we deserved to go. That's what makes the conference tournament great, anyone can make the NCAA by running the table...


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> I like the new Format -- JoeStag, 08:16:43 01/20/03 Mon

And I think the #1 seed is a huge advantage. #1 seed plays either the #4, #5 or #10 seed in the semi's. Plus they have to play at 4:30 the night before. I would rather have the rest.

Last year we played at 10PM on Saturday night till 12:30 on Sunday...... thats not that much difference thatn playing on Sunday. I will take the double bye any day.

I don't think that the NIT would care if we didn't have that extra 1st round win over a Loyola or Rider.


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> 19 vs 20 -- JCM, 09:09:43 01/20/03 Mon

Well if the difference is 19 wins versus 20, I think it really does matter. 20 wins seems to be a magic number that gets you into the NIT.

But you are right Joe that 10 PM game followed by the 12:30 game was always a big problem. The folks that play in that night game should have gotten the late afternoon game. I am glad that no team will be in that situation this year.


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Don't like the new format -- Menzies, 09:51:02 01/20/03 Mon

I don't like the new format either. If the conference is concerned that the best team (presumably regular season conference winner) doesn't advance then we should go back to no conference tournament.

In the current format the #1 is hardly there. If the tourney is about your conference don't you think more fans from all schools will want to see the best teams. Isn't playing 7/10, then 4/5 enough of a reward for being # 1, especially in the MAAC lately where #1 and #4 are not that different. I think they are making the MAAC tourney more about the next step and not about the CONFERENCE. If you get tripped up in 7/10 or 4/5, are you really that much better than the rest of the league.

I think a better improvement is to fix the scheduling somehow. Isn't the 3/6 (?) game winner basically screwed because they finish late Friday (?) and play at noon (or something like it) on Saturday. That is just unfair. Unless I have FU's depth, PIG might be better than 6.


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[> [> O -- InfoMan, 10:56:32 01/19/03 Sun


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