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Date Posted: 12:47:39 01/20/03 Mon
Author: JoeStag
Subject: A Winning Season vs Building a Program
In reply to: Proud Papa 's message, "Re: Stag 89 - only obstacle" on 11:15:16 01/20/03 Mon

Well it will feel good that we will have a winning season, but they key if TOT can make this into a Winning Program. Fairfield's coaches over the last 20 years (O'Conner, Buonaguro, Cormier) had a winning season here and there, but never back to back and did not have anything close to a successfull program. Matter of fact, they took over a program that was very successfull and it wnet down hill.

From 65-80, Bisacca and Barakat built programs, where a losing season was the exception. We need to get back to the point know that we are winning 16-19 games EVERY year, and have that 20+ win season and MAAC Championship every 3 or 4 years.

From what I see, not only will we win this year, but I see a pretty good run on the horizon. PP, I agree that the administration needs to make more of a committment for us to get to even a higher level, but even under current University support...... winning 16-19 games a year should definitely be in our grasp. Once we do that, and average 3,000 - 4,000 fans, we will be in position to take it to the next level, and the University better be ready..... as it was not ready to take that step in 1980 after 15 successfull Division I seasons.

I always felt the program was getting better under TOT, but the W-L's did not prove it. Hopefully that has changed. I prefer to compare TOT to Bisacca and Barakat, and not O'Conner, Buonaguro, and Cormier.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Re: Stag 89 - only obstacle -- RayS, 13:01:14 01/20/03 Mon

I have no quarell with judging TOT on his individual merits. Frankly to compare him to previous coaches is to damn him with faint praise. I think for the most part people are judging him on the merits, think back a moment to where we were last Feb. We had just been humiliated by St. J's our only 2 guards were Freshmen who frankly weren't playing well. There seemed to be dissension on the team & a rather bleak prospect for any improvement.

In that context TOT deserved the criticism he got based on his record. I, and others on this board Stag92 to mention one much maligned poster (no he's not a relative of mine), gave TOT full credit at that time and said he deserved another year. With the record he has compiled it is obvious he desrves an extension.

My post was in response to those who imply that TOT should somehow be above criticism & that those who critisize are somehow unworthy of serious consideration or in the case of students should be barred from attending games or are too impatient or disloyal. I have no problem with people defending TOT on the merits I do have a problem with ad hominem attacks & a mean spirited "I told you so" attitude from those whose loyalty is directed toward TOT the individual rather then Fairfield the Univ.

One thing I learned @ FU was that one can disagree without being disagreeable. furthermore if TOT has any problem with anything I've said he has my phone# & e-mail address he doesn't need people defending hom on this board who are mean-spirited & ugly. TOT, frankly has been very gracious in our communications & I'm sure he would disavow the rantings of posters like omm & TruthRuth. If I thought he wouldn't I'd think much less of him as a person.


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