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Subject: Coaching alternatives Author: Terfra1 [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: Friday, March 21, 01:39:11pm Author Host/IP: NoHost/107.122.241.10 With the relatively new Wild West version of NCAA sports, it seems to me that NU has two options for a Coach. A young ambitious Coach looking to use NU as a stepping stone, or an established older assistant who looks at a start at NU as his big break. The biggest thing about either of these types of coaches is that they should get a 3 year deal. They either succeed and move on, or don't and we start again. Let's face it, the opportunity to build a team over 4 years is less and less likely. So it's wham, bam, thank you time. If you can't recruit a winner in a 3 year span, look to the next guy. Keeping a Casey or a Paulus for 6 years doesn't fit the current landscape. There is no point doing the same thing and expecting different results. Maybe that's a harsh perspective on prospective longevity, but it's today's realities. No one would bemoan a successful Coach moving on, what's wrong with moving on from an unsuccessful coach? Good on Iona to realize that Tobin took an experienced team at FD and peaked with them, but didn't have the same strength in having to start from scratch in the Portal and NIL world. NU needs to have the same mentality. [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> Subject: Re: Coaching alternatives Author: RCM [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Friday, March 21, 01:47:33pm Author Host/IP: NoHost/208.105.101.82 These are good points. With one exception. You are assuming NU thinks it can win. I suspect that behind closed doors when the folks in charge say "okay what is a good season here". They probably think 10 wins. So through that lense I would suspect that GP winning 10-12 games. Having no off the court issues. And GP being a great representative of the school..There is absolutely no pressure on GP to leave and none for him to be gone. The reality in the current set up of NIL is that NU's ceiling is probably 15 wins. We are acting like we want a MAAC championship. A good place to start tho would be keeping an entire team from year to the next. We are literally starting over every year. From what I was told in some cases at NU it is not players leaving NU to get MORE money. It is players leaving to get any money at all. If you are 19 and playing bball at a school and getting nothing. And then some other no name school offers you $10,000 of course you are leaving. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Re: Coaching alternatives Author: Purp 1 [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Friday, March 21, 02:05:51pm Author Host/IP: syn-074-070-140-050.res.spectrum.com/74.70.140.50 To my knowledge, in the history of the program there is only only one men's bb coach that they did a national search for. Can you name him? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Re: Coaching alternatives Author: Terfra1 [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Friday, March 21, 03:02:03pm Author Host/IP: 75-33-248-46.lightspeed.brhmal.sbcglobal.net/75.33.248.46 I might be clinging to hopeless naïveté, but I still think an ambitious aggressive Coach could come to NU, and tell 5 kids, “Come to NU with me. You will get the coaching, development, minutes and opportunities to cash into a nice NIL deal when we compete in or even win the MAAC. Then he targets 4-5 kids with some flaws and tells them, give me 2 years, we will develop you, work on your flaws, improve your game and set you up to move on. I know we aren’t going to get 4 year kids, but a good coach (salesman) can bring in enough talent to win. Being in Huntsville, I am amazed at the talent at D2 UAH. I am sure they would beat NU. Then I look at Jim Crutchfield at Nova Southeastern, who is a perennial D2 power. His shtick is full court press all game long. He is phenomenally successful despite losing kids to NIL. I don’t pretend it’s easy, just that it’s possible, and yes, if it worked, that Coach would move on quickly, but that’s the deal today. I think the worst move is sticking with a guy for 6 years or so, and not ever being successful, not generating any community or campus excitement and basically just watching the whole thing rot. If that’s the case, better to go D2 or 3, cut down the travel and expenses and be done with it. As many of you noted, this years team brought no excitement or anything that could generate fan enthusiasm. Most of us push ourselves to watch a NU game instead of being excited about it. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Re: Coaching alternatives Author: Maldez [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Friday, March 21, 03:13:42pm Author Host/IP: NoHost/67.249.246.87 Obviously, that was Joe Mihalich...and look at the results. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: Re: Coaching alternatives Author: Maldez [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Friday, March 21, 04:03:50pm Author Host/IP: syn-067-249-246-087.res.spectrum.com/67.249.246.87 And then there was the Patrick Beilein hiring...not sure you can call that a national search. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Re: Coaching alternatives Author: Maldez [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Friday, March 21, 04:08:41pm Author Host/IP: syn-067-249-246-087.res.spectrum.com/67.249.246.87 I think Niagara already tried the "young ambitious Coach looking to use NU as a stepping stone" and after 6 years the results aren't good...Niagara will never fire Greg Paulus. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]