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Subject: Re: WBB ranked 362 out of 363


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WCpurple
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Date Posted: Sunday, November 30, 06:00:11pm
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In reply to: wcpurple 's message, "WBB ranked 362 out of 363" on Saturday, November 29, 09:56:36am

How did things get so bad for Wbb?

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Maldez
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Date Posted: Sunday, November 30, 06:19:04pm
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The same might be said of men's basketball.
[> [> [> Subject: ROI (What say you?)


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Purp 1
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Date Posted: Monday, December 01, 07:49:48pm
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I was wondering if NU even needs athletics but this might lead to discussion. Bona is 52& men. Niagara is 33%. I know they need to attract males, but sports may NOT be the way to go any longer as Division I. I took all of this from Google AI. Might lead to a comment or two....I hope,
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The decision to remain in Division I if a school's sports program struggles involves financial, reputational, and strategic factors. There is no single correct answer, as the decision depends on the school's circumstances, goals, and resources.

Key factors to consider include:
Financial Implications

High Costs: Division I programs, especially in football and basketball, require significant financial investment. A program that struggles often runs a deficit.

Revenue Generation Potential: D-I status offers potential for media contracts, alumni donations, and ticket sales. The possibility of a successful season can drive continued investment.

Opportunity Cost: Money spent on a losing D-I program could be used for other university priorities if the program does not generate enough return on investment.

Reputational & Recruitment Benefits

Institutional Visibility: D-I athletics provide national visibility. Even a struggling team receives more media attention than a successful D-II or D-III team, which serves as advertising for the university.

Recruitment Tool: D-I status can help recruit students who want a "big school" experience.

Alumni Engagement: A D-I team keeps alumni engaged, which can lead to donations and general support.


Competitive Landscape & Morale

Student-Athlete Experience: Remaining in D-I might offer a challenging environment, but it can be demoralizing to face superior competition and experience continuous losses.

Path to Success: Moving to a lower division (D-II or D-III) allows a school to compete against similar institutions, potentially building a winning culture, increasing morale, and achieving success.

A school should conduct a thorough financial and strategic analysis. The school must decide if the institutional value and potential of D-I status outweigh the financial burdens and competitive struggles, or if a move to a lower, more sustainable division is the better path forward for long-term health and success.
[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: ROI (What say you?)


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Maldez
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Date Posted: Tuesday, December 02, 07:50:10am
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If Niagara can't field a competitive D1 basketball program it should just drop basketball altogether...going D2 accomplishes nothing and would in no way interest the small gathering of fans it has left.
[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: ROI (What say you?)


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Purp 1
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Date Posted: Tuesday, December 02, 12:33:58pm
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At this point you aren't looking at fan interest. You are looking at having sports for students to participate in period. In that sense, D II isn't a bad option. If this affiliation with D-I brings NU some sort of "swagger" that increases visibility and attractiveness, it comes with a miserable amount of failure for the cost and effort.
[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Fr Maher....


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Purp 1
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Date Posted: Tuesday, December 02, 01:01:30pm
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I don't believe that he is all that concerned with the wins and losses. He committed to his friend Casey and had to give him enough time to perhaps bring some success and I wonder if he ever knew Pat Beilein before Simon became infatuated with him. There were some fairly major issues that developed towards the end of Bill Agronin's tenure and it became necessary to "straighten them out" by hiring a no nonsense coach hired more for her ability to iron out the wrinkles more than bring a bunch of wins to WBB. To me that is why she has remained here so long. I call them other reasons. Fr Maher (speculation) is also for having a woman of color as WBB coach.

Greg Paulus will always have a job in basketball be it as our coach or someones assistant. Personally, I feel he is qualified to lead a team and has the knowledge of the game. I think he finds himself at a terrific disadvantage due to the sketchy history of the program he can sell and of course the financial limitations. I see two D-I players on his team and the rest are II and III. No inside strength, no speed and very average offensive capability.

Just sad to see two teams that can compete to save their lives anymore, BUT how they fare in the MAAC will be the time tested best view.

Having said that the NU athletic department has the least amount of power in it's battery in ages.
[> [> [> [> [> Subject: D3


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Wcpurple
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Date Posted: Tuesday, December 02, 12:49:11pm
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D3 for enrollment, d2 is pointless


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