VoyForums
[ Show ]
Support VoyForums
[ Shrink ]
VoyForums Announcement: Programming and providing support for this service has been a labor of love since 1997. We are one of the few services online who values our users' privacy, and have never sold your information. We have even fought hard to defend your privacy in legal cases; however, we've done it with almost no financial support -- paying out of pocket to continue providing the service. Due to the issues imposed on us by advertisers, we also stopped hosting most ads on the forums many years ago. We hope you appreciate our efforts.

Show your support by donating any amount. (Note: We are still technically a for-profit company, so your contribution is not tax-deductible.) PayPal Acct: Feedback:

Donate to VoyForums (PayPal):

[ Login ] [ Main index ] [ Post a new message ] [ Search | Check update time | Archives: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 ]

[ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

Date Posted: 20:20:13 11/14/12 Wed
Author: George
Subject: Re: new world church secretary
In reply to: - 's message, "Re: new world church secretary" on 08:52:47 11/14/12 Wed

>>>>but then again, your assertions are just that. your
>>>>assertions.
>>>>
>>>>john
>>>
>>>John, her assertions are only her assertions because
>>>there is not the least concept of truth in the
>>>Community of Christ. In the Community of Christ, the
>>>"truth" is whatever the people who matter believe is
>>>necessary to execute their agenda. Also, those who do
>>>not believe what is necessary to execute this agenda
>>>by definition do not matter.
>>>
>>>George
>>>
>>What I should do is, whenever I post the url for
>>something the c-not-of-c said or did, I should put
>>under it, "true?" or "false?"
>>
>> >>href="http://www.cofchrist.org/OnlineResources/issues/
>1
>>982homosexuality.asp">http://www.cofchrist.org/OnlineR
>e
>>sources/issues/1982homosexuality.asp
>>
>>In the critical matter of ordination, the church
>>should not admit a practicing homosexual to the
>>priesthood. It cannot sanction homosexual acts as
>>morally acceptable behavior any more than it can
>>endorse heterosexual promiscuity. If a member of
>>the priesthood admits to, or is found to be engaged in
>>homosexual behavior, the administrative officer having
>>jurisdiction should institute procedures for silencing
>>according to church law.
>>
>>This was the stand in 1982. True? False?
>>
>> >>href="http://www.cofchrist.org/usaconf/FAQ.asp">http:/
>/
>>www.cofchrist.org/usaconf/FAQ.asp
>>
>>USA National Conference
>>Frequently Asked Questions
>>
>>4. Why are we talking about same-gender marriages and
>>ordaining people in same-gender relationships? Doesn’t
>>the church already have a policy about ordaining
>>homosexuals?
>>
>>a. In 1982, the Standing High Council wrote a
>>document. From that document, the First Presidency
>>created a policy that does not allow ordination of
>>anyone (heterosexual or homosexual) involved in sexual
>>relationships outside of marriage.
>>
>>The wording is different, the second one changing the
>>meaning of the first one. True? False?
>>
>>That makes the c-not-of-c leadership a pack of liars.
>>True? False?
>>
>>Lois

Matt Lowry wrote:

>True
>False
>False
>
>if you read the SHC statement, it is clear that it is
>about extramarital sexual relations. That is the
>clear context. It further lays the basis for that in
>the fact that homosexuals, in 1982 (and still in many
>places today),could not legally marry.
>The context of the policy in 1982, as it still is,
>relates to sexual promiscuity...not whether it is
>heterosexual or homosexual, per se.

It is absolutely clear that it is about perverted
I know you believe that the sin of Sodom was "inhospitality," and that condemnation of homosexuality was all about "cult prostitution," but deep inside, you either know you are wrong, or you know nothing, Matt.

As wicked as the Catholic Church is, even that church considers homosexual acts to be "inherently disordered." The phony attempts to have "gay marriage" require that marriage be redefined into something disorderly so as to make it appear that homosexuals are made for it. Two men wanting desperately to plight their troth to make themselves feel better deep inside is like a teenage girl having a baby so that she will have "someone to love me." I understand the feelings much better than heterophobes might suppose, but the destructive consequences of both "disorderedness" are all to obvious, except to Laputans.

Jesus Christ loves all human beings, and expects us to do the same. However, loving all human beings does not require us to love their sin and endorse it on a soapbox. The CofC can arbitrarily define "love" as such, and you can buy into it, but the truth is the truth.

The only way that I can say that the leadership is not "a pack of liars" as Lois puts it, is simply to dome up with some euphemism for sociopathic delusion and apply the diagnosis to the Cofc, "the sick man of the Restoration."

George

[ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]
Post a message:
This forum requires an account to post.
[ Create Account ]
[ Login ]
Forum timezone: GMT-5
VF Version: 3.00b, ConfDB:
Before posting please read our privacy policy.
VoyForums(tm) is a Free Service from Voyager Info-Systems.
Copyright © 1998-2019 Voyager Info-Systems. All Rights Reserved.