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Date Posted: 07:49:58 09/02/00 Sat
Author: Mariah
Subject: Reason and Intelligence
In reply to: Brain 's message, "Re: IQ" on 04:52:43 09/02/00 Sat

I don't just believe in reason and intelligence. I believe in reason and intelligence cooperating with creation and inspiration.

Reason without creativity mixed with inspiration is as robotic as religion is and is no different. It is its twin sister.

When people argue, it's almost guaranteed that both personalities are very similar or they wouldn't need to argue.

Argument doesn't ever help a person become less angry, but more angry. Argument sets up division. Argument is to strengthen the beliefs of the one who argues, and is not designed to change another person's mind (which can never occur through reason, alone).

In any argument, neither side is right and both sides are right. 'Reason' says "I'm right". 'Religion' says, "I'm right." And, neither is right for both are lifting up a dead thing and showing it off as if it were alive.

There is no right and wrong in love.

The religious get off the track when they forget about love and lose sight of what love is. A reasoning person gets off the track when they lose sight of what love is.

I'm talking about the world of the unseen, not the world of the seen. The ancients would symbolize it as 'the spirit'.

The world is a mysterious place, where very strange coincidences occur every day. That is not a mystical thing, but is just the way the world operates. Science sets itself on the things which math can prove. Everything can't be proved with math, and everything doesn't fit into an equation, so science is as short-sighted as religion is. Science is not everything, nor can it describe everything.

Words are very similar. Words spoken clearly can illuminate, but they are used far more of the time in the game of subtefuge and war. I expose this aspect of words at all times. I play with it, hoping to reveal the nature of words, which is not the nature of the world but is the nature of a liar.

Neither is to be trusted to tell us what the world is like.

...

I use reason where reason is needed, and creativity where creativity is needed. And, I try to do both with inspiration for religion without inspiration is dead, and so is reason without inspiration.

Above all other things, I keep my eye trained on love at the core of all things because both knowledge and religion are nothing without love.

Without love, life is just torture with no purpose and no meaning.

> > IQ stands for 'Intelligence QUOTIENT'. That means
> that
> > the IQ number means "The age that you're brain works
> > like divided by the age that you are".
> >
> > When you're five years old, and you can think like a
> > typical ten year old, then that would mean you have
> an
> > IQ of 200. But, that also means that IQ is highly
> > definable merely because of the person's age.
> >
> > For, a five year old has only lived five years. The
> > five year old is 50% the age of the ten year old.
> > However, as one gets older, IQ tests mean less and
> > less until they mean nothing at all. For, does
> anybody
> > think that the amount of difference between a 5 year
> > old and a ten year old is not greater than the
> > difference between a 20 year old and a fourty year
> old?
> >
> > For example, what does it mean that a person who is
> > twenty thinks like a fourty year old? Does that mean
> > they are thinking better than a fourty year old, or
> > worse than a fourty year old?
> >
> > The difference between a fourty year old and an
> eighty
> > year old? Certainly the fourty year old is thinking
> > BETTER than the eighty year old by a great degree.
> >
> > A 20 year old would be fifty percent of a forty year
> > old, but everybody knows that the difference between
> a
> > 5 year old's mind and a ten year old's mind is vastly
> > different as far as their ability to do cognitive
> > things. This is particularly true the earlier you go
> > (and, certainly the greatest leap is the leap from
> > what you can do the instant you're born, to what you
> > can do when you're five years old).
> >
> > So, what exactly does an IQ test show once a person
> > gets to age twenty, then? It certainly doesn't hold
> up
> > to the actual meaning of IQ, so the question has to
> be
> > asked whether it means anything at all after you
> reach
> > age 20.
> >
> > IQ tests are decided upon by judgement. The judgement
> > that those who design the tests with is particular to
> > their culture, what they determine to be 'intelligent
> > behavior', and there is absolutely no reason why two
> > different types of IQ tests should correlate in the
> > slightest way with any other IQ test made in a
> > different way (The Densa test, the Tchechia, the
> Mensa
> > test...) So, it is a test of social status. It is a
> > test of comparison between belief structures. It is a
> > test of what some 'norm' has decided is 'normal'.
> >
> > If people use IQ numbers to prove some sort of higher
> > status in much the same way that Christianity proves
> > 'Going to Heaven' status by association, then they
> are
> > doing it because they feel less in that realm than
> > another, not that they feel more. So, it would seem
> > that if someone touts IQ, somewhere deep down they
> > must really feel like an idiot, just as the more
> > someone says they're going to Heaven, they have much
> > more serious doubts than the typical person has.
> > Someone who touts an affinity to God has more fear
> > that they have no affinity to God. Someone who fights
> > and defends that there certainly is a God is the most
> > scared that there is none.
> >
> > If anybody uses the concept of IQ to make themselves
> > feel better than another, then that isn't an
> > intelligent thing to do, just as it isn't a holy
> thing
> > to do to state supremacy or justification through
> > association with 'God'.
> >
> > When someone needs tell another they are intelligent,
> > they are very far from it. When someone needs to tell
> > someone they are holy, they are also very far from
> it.
>
>
>
> If you are 20 and think like 40 you are 20 years
> ahead, and that�s a great achievement! I agree that
> intelligence is not the most important thing. Just
> take you as an example, you are one of the most
> intelligent people that I met on the internet, and how
> you use your intelligence? You use your intelligence
> to speak in parables and beat around the bush :( and
> so your intelligence goes down the drain :( :( :(
> Brain
>

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