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Date Posted: 07/12/01 23:00:21
Author: Abdireyim
Subject: Re: Pinyinda sh,ch larmu bar, ular pinyin bilen toqunushmaydu!
In reply to: Waris 's message, "Pinyinda sh,ch larmu bar, ular pinyin bilen toqunushmaydu!" on 07/12/01 22:46:55

From: "Rey Uy"
Date: Thu Jan 4, 2001 9:48 am
Subject: Re: [Uyghurlar] Pinyinda sh,ch larmu bar, ular pinyin bilen toqunushmaydu!

Western Europe(ISO) bilen enkodlang!


Yahximu siler tordashlar,

>Pinyin gha yeqinlashturimiz desekmu “ch, sh” larni qoshushqa toghra kilidighu? Ular pinyinda >barghu? Pinyin wehshilerche asas qilinghan burunqi yengi yeziqimizning(1983-yighiche >ishlitilgen) nimishqa emeldin qaldurulghanliqini oylap beqinglar. Uni yene asas qalimiz disek >“zh,ch,sh” larnimu qoshup, yingi herp yasap herpimizni 35 qilamduq?
Men yuqurqi tehlillerdin towendikini hes qilip qaldim. Belkim hatadu.

UKY bolsa, pinyinni assass qilmastiki assasi sewep, eslide “zh,ch,sh” larning Uyghur Elipbesige qoxulup qelip. Eslidiki 32 herpimiz 35 bolup qalmisun dep lahilengen ohxaydu( Tarih yeni UYY buning delili).
Eger muxu nuhta asas qilinghan bolsa, bu tehnikiliq halda melum nersilerdin ozini qoghdaxqa ohxax ix.

Hazirqi weziyet, belkim 60- yillargha ohximaslighi mumkin. Eger u tehnikiliq oylunux bolmisa, nime ucun, UIY da digendek “zh,ch,sh” larni Uyghur elipbesige kirguzmey. Ularni symbol qatarida korup, cet el tiligha ixlitilidu dep iniq yezip. Yeni u herplerni qeti elipbege kirguzmey. UIY diki bezi herplerni islahat qilip uni UKY qilsaq bolmamdu?

Kim “yaq “zh,ch,sh” larni Uyghur elipbesige kirguzise” dep turuwala? Elwette, bu soalgha jawap berix intayin tes bolixi mumkin, cunki biz mutleh halda, ixlar ozimizning digini boyice bolixi natayin, bu nuhta hemmimizge ayan.
Eger yuqarqidek tehnika del bizning UKY ni belgilextiki muhim amil bolsa, bu yerde baxqa nersielrni sozlexning hajiti yoq.
>Xinjiang, Shanghai, Zhou Rongji, Qingdao, Chongqing … dep yazamduq? Yaki Pinyinini >emes xenzuchisini yazamduq? Nimishqa Shinjang, >Shanghei, Ju Rongji, Chingdaw, >Chongching … dep yazmaymiz?!

UKY ni bekitixte dunyagha yolunux intayin kop tekitlengen. Undaqta nime ucun baxqa milletlerning namlirini yezixta, Uyghurcilaxturumiz. Bundaq qiliq “dunyagha yolunux” bolamdu?

Dunyada kixi isimliri, yer namlar , birlikler we terminlar(helq araliq) intayin kop bolghanlighi xundaqla alaqilixixning tereqi qilixi bilen kixler baxqa bir milletning kixi isimliri we yer namlirini xu millet qandaq(latincida) yazghan bolsa, yazghuci millet xu peti yazidighan qaide xekillendi. Burun qeliplixip qalghan yezilixlar bolsa xu peti ixlitilip( huddi biz, Shihezi ni Xihenze, ChangJi ni Sanja ), yengi kirgen isim yer namlar oz peti yezilixini tekitlenmekte(huddi Shenzhen).
Bundaq bolghan caghda ucurda qalaymiqanciliq az ciqidu. Cunki, herqandaq millet baxqa milletning tilini xu millet uqqandek uqalixi hem iniq yazalixi natayin. Bir millet ozinig nersilirini, ozlirila iniq yazalaydu.
Hezularmu baxqa milletning isimlirini hem yer namlirini latince yazsa xu milletning tiligha mumkin qeder yeqin yazidu(bu nuhta tehimu we dawamliq tekitlinixi kerek). Mesilen: Uygur, Ürümqi, Altay, Taklamakan, Tarim, Karamay,….(UYY asasida)….. Lhasa, Tibet,….(China Daily gha qarang, resmi heritage qarang). Hetta umlaut kelidigan isimlarni umlaut bilen yazidu. Elwette, beziliri oz beximciliq bilen henzuce pinyin boyice yezip qoyudighanlarnu bar(Wulumuqi, Weiwuer), bundaq yezilix qanunluq yezilix emes, bundaq yezixni Zhonggoudiki nopusluq metbuat orunlirimu etrap qilmaydu.
Yer namlarni, kixi isimlarni we birliklerni oz peti yazsaq. Nurghunlighan awariciliqlardin hali bolimiz, til yeziq komititi bundaq has isimlarni qeliplaxturuxqa ait ixlarni qilixtin hali bolup baxqa muhim ixlarni qilixqa waqit ciqidu. Cunki, ucurlarning tezligidin, isimlarni qeliplaxturghice uni elan qilghuice we kixiler uninggha kongice kop waqit otup ketidu, xuning bilen teng nurghunlighan yengi nersiler peyda bolidu. Dimek, qeliplaxturux hizmiti dawamliq keynide qeliweridu. Muxu seweptin, English we basqa milletler baxqa milletning isimlirini yer namlirini qandaq yazsa xu peti yezixqa konken, bir hesapta ular bundaq qilixni xu milletning tilini we xu kixini hormetlex dep cuxunidu.
“ senmu qandaq yazsang, menmu ozemning boyice yazimen” digen idiye, eqilane koz qarax emes. Ular qandaq yazsa, biz ularning bizning qaydimiz boyice yezixini tekitliximiz, ulargha cuxenduruximiz we dawamliq hizmet ixliximiz kerek. Bu belkim bezilerge nisbeten, godeklik tuyuluxi mumkin. Cunki, beziler bizning tilimizgha pisent qilmaydude.
Hataliq bolsa tuzutup oqasiler,

Aman bolunglar.
Abdi Reyim(Rey)

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