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Date Posted: 18:45:24 11/30/01 Fri
Author: Second_Chance
Subject: Re: Did Darla love Angel (human/Vamp1/Vamp2) / Angel love Darla?
In reply to: KhaliG 's message, "Re: Did Darla love Angel (human/Vamp1/Vamp2) / Angel love Darla?" on 11:19:30 11/30/01 Fri

>I like Angel with Darla because she gives him a sense
>of depth and history. When she's with him, I can
>really go, "yeah, this guy is 200-odd years old". With
>Cordy, she gives him a connection to humanity that he
>sorely needed. The deep Angel/Cordy friendship that
>could turn into something more is fascinting. Right
>now, I'm more Angel/Darla than Angel/Cordy at the
>moment. As far as I'm concerned, both women know Angel
>a heck of a lot better than Buffy ever did back in
>Seasons 1 and 2.

Aah.... the word "humanity". In the first Angel episode, Doyle insisted that Angel would should be more like human, to have a connection with humans. Look at Oxford dict, says humanity is about characters of human not animal/human thoughts of being humans. IMO, the day this male vamp got back his soul, he was already 'humanized'. He had the emotional feelings and the rational thinkings of the human he used to be b4 he was killed. All he needed was to control his demon nature & used it to his advantages.
Not that I'm against Cordy with Angel, but Angel should have gotten his connections from other human peoples (ie bonding with Wesley, Gunn, Virginia, Lindsey, Lilah(he,he,he), Kate, Bethany, Faith, Xander, Spike. He should learn to fall, rise up, fall again, rise up again, say "yes", say "no", fall, rise. Everyone (including u & I, at least me) wrestles with the word "humanity", but i do know that mixing with 1,2,3 friends doesn't really make you connected to humans.

>You want to know something? True happiness is
>over-rated. All it does is turn Angel into a sadistic
>s.o.b., who treats women like crap. In terms of
>consequences for sex, a baby is on the scale of very
>nice compared to the sex with Buffy in Season 2.
>Quite frankly, I don't know what to really say about
>Darla/Angel. I can't quite call it love, but I can't
>call it "lust" either.

This I agree. True happiness is really overrated. I am not going to disect the wrd "true happiness".

>Somehow, "lust"/"obsession" diminishes the impact
>those two had on each other. I think it lies somewhere
>in between. Those two have one heck of a connection,
>though. They've both been through experiences that
>only they can understand. They share a past and a
>history that's just amazing. If anything, I love the
>flashbacks because they show me the evolving nature of
>their relationship from the inital faithlessness in
>The Trial, to the Bonnie and Clyde feel in Offspring,
>to the settled couple in Darla and Dear Boy to the sad
>disintegration upon ensoulment in 5x5.
>
>So, was Angel in love with Darla? I'm not sure. I
>think he was attracted to her as Angel and as Angelus,
>since she made him who he is. Darla, on the other
>hand, was attracted to Angel and I think began to fall
>in love with him at the end of the Trial. if anything,
>her reaction in Epiphany reminds me of a woman who was
>deeply betrayed by a man she was attracted to.

But I am against something...Angel should not look down/condemn at his demon connections. As I said, he had the best of 2 worlds. Yet, when Darla came back, everyone (well almost everybody) b4 episode "Lullaby" cried "Angel! Off with her head"/ "Stake the ground witch", without even reasoning her heart motives. It's just like a young wild man allowing his new found civilization friends to hunt the very wolves that had found him & raised him up in the jungle life. To me frankly, the very reason that Angel refused to acknowledge that he (the human souled vampire) would ever fall with a demon (Darla), regardless to the fact that he was a demon, and that the very same demon (Darla) had sacrificed a lot for him. He just want something higher/ or as equivalent with him (ie a human girlfriend--be it Buffy/Cordy) as he was very CAPABLE of loving a human girl.

It is easy for me to condemn, perhaps I might do the same thing if I were in Angel shoes.

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Re: Did Darla love Angel (human/Vamp1/Vamp2) / Angel love Darla? -- SugarTherapy, 13:48:33 12/01/01 Sat
Re: Did Darla love Angel (human/Vamp1/Vamp2) / Angel love Darla? -- geoffsgirl, 07:46:44 02/14/04 Sat