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Date Posted: 14:58:32 11/03/01 Sat
Author: talon5
Subject: Draceana Marginata leaf drop
Hi all.......two weeks ago, my Draceanas (six in one 10" pot) seemed as dry as they usually are when I water, so I went ahead and gave them a good drink.
Within days, I saw leaves starting to yellow, and eventually drop off.
Between the six plants, I've lost over twenty leaves, after having gone months, without the loss of but an occasional leaf, here or there.
Part of the possible problem was that I had them double-potted, the second pot having a "built-in" drip tray, which allows an inch and a half of standing water to collect, in the bottom. I've eliminated the outer problem pot, as a result.
But now I'm wondering, could it be that I need to repot these plants? Would too small a pot be a cause for leaf drop?
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Re: Draceana Marginata leaf drop -- denny, 15:11:37 11/03/01 Sat [1]
the leaf drop ive expirenced has been from drought.
have you had your heat turned up yet?that will dry them out faster,on the other hand,the cooler days leave them wet longer.
ive always found watering a pain in the arse in fall and spring.
i dont think repotting is the answer,not saying they dont need it,just it wouldnt cause leaf drop.
im glad you fixed the standing water problem.that could definatly cause leaf drop,and death,may be the problem.
>Hi all.......two weeks ago, my Draceanas (six in one
>10" pot) seemed as dry as they usually are when I
>water, so I went ahead and gave them a good drink.
> Within days, I saw leaves starting to yellow, and
>eventually drop off.
> Between the six plants, I've lost over twenty
>leaves, after having gone months, without the loss of
>but an occasional leaf, here or there.
> Part of the possible problem was that I had them
>double-potted, the second pot having a "built-in" drip
>tray, which allows an inch and a half of standing
>water to collect, in the bottom. I've eliminated the
>outer problem pot, as a result.
> But now I'm wondering, could it be that I need to
>repot these plants? Would too small a pot be a cause
>for leaf drop?
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Re: Draceana Marginata leaf drop -- talon5, 15:40:39 11/03/01 Sat [1]
Actually I'm lucky, I can go most of the year without turning on my heat, since the landlord changed to thermal windows. Added to that, I've got an old spinster downstairs, who must keep her heat cranking!
So, maybe I let them go too dry, huh?
I'm beginning to doubt it was the standing water thing....considering, they've been potted like that, since the Spring, with little or no leaf drop, all year.
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Re: Draceana Marginata leaf drop -- Liz, 15:14:55 11/03/01 Sat [1]
Sounds like it sat in water too long. I'd wait without repotting and see what happens.
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Hi all.......two weeks ago, my Draceanas (six in one
>10" pot) seemed as dry as they usually are when I
>water, so I went ahead and gave them a good drink.
> Within days, I saw leaves starting to yellow, and
>eventually drop off.
> Between the six plants, I've lost over twenty
>leaves, after having gone months, without the loss of
>but an occasional leaf, here or there.
> Part of the possible problem was that I had them
>double-potted, the second pot having a "built-in" drip
>tray, which allows an inch and a half of standing
>water to collect, in the bottom. I've eliminated the
>outer problem pot, as a result.
> But now I'm wondering, could it be that I need to
>repot these plants? Would too small a pot be a cause
>for leaf drop?
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Re: Draceana Marginata leaf drop -- No name, 16:18:49 11/03/01 Sat [1]
Talon, I have two Dracena marginatas, and I find that theyalways like to be potted-on - so perhaps they're just making a statement - as soon as I have re-potted them, they seem to shoot up, and I got one for a trifling sum in the garden-centre because it was pot-bound and looked awful. When they're small, they are prone to shock on transplant, I've found anyway, but are made of sterner stuff as they age. I would definitely repot - why don't you try one on it's own to see what happens, perhaps they might prefer going solo?
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Re: Draceana Marginata leaf drop -- Maggie, 16:22:31 11/03/01 Sat [1]
Sorry, Talon, that was me !
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Re: Draceana Marginata leaf drop -- Joe B, 17:12:19 11/05/01 Mon [1]
Usually overwatering, dry air, and spider mites were the enemies to the ones I had. Finding where they grow best and leaving them there seemed best for me. I put it in the bathroom where it was more humid for at least part of the day and in say moderate filtered light (thru mini blinds) with a west exposure---the tricolor one seemed to need a tad more light to maintain the colors.
>Sorry, Talon, that was me !
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Re: Draceana Marginata leaf drop -- No name, 19:01:38 11/05/01 Mon [1]
sure wouldnt hurt to take it out of the pot and look.
that would be a good way to determin rot as well.
>Talon, I have two Dracena marginatas, and I find that
>theyalways like to be potted-on - so perhaps they're
>just making a statement - as soon as I have re-potted
>them, they seem to shoot up, and I got one for a
>trifling sum in the garden-centre because it was
>pot-bound and looked awful. When they're small, they
>are prone to shock on transplant, I've found anyway,
>but are made of sterner stuff as they age. I would
>definitely repot - why don't you try one on it's own
>to see what happens, perhaps they might prefer going
>solo?
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Re: Draceana Marginata leaf drop -- No name, 01:45:24 11/06/01 Tue [1]
Well, the unknown author, and Maggie hit it right on! I took the dracaenas out of their pot, as suggested, and WOW did they need repotting!!! There were roots right against the plastic pot wall, which I'm sure were drying out very quickly....so yes, you too were right Denny....drought=leaf drop. The bag of potting soil I bought had repotting tips, and one of their clues, as to when it's time to repot, is yellowing or wilting leaves. The leaves were looking kind of droopy, compared to how they used to be.
I had given them some water, before leaving for work this morning and before repotting, and they already looked better, by the time I got home.
Now they're all repotted....from a 9"(22.8cm)pot, into a 14"(35.5cm)pot. An interesting pot......1/8" plastic, with a built-in liner which has slots in the bottom, and the bottom of the liner is 5" above the bottom of the outer pot, to allow excess water to drain, but not come in contact with the bottom of the planting area. There are also cutouts in the outer pot, to drain the collected water out of the catch basin, if need be. It's "supposedly" over-waterring proof. It seems a good design, to me. I put some pea stone in the bottom, to keep the soil from clogging or being lost through the slots. Hopefully, my dracaenas are all set, for awhile, now?!
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Re: Draceana Marginata leaf drop -- Liz, 16:10:19 11/06/01 Tue [1]
Impresive. Definitely an improvement over the self-watering type pots. Glad you determined the problem and corrected it.
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Re: Draceana Marginata leaf drop -- denny, 16:47:25 11/06/01 Tue [1]
thats good.
where did you find that pot?
i like the idea.
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Re: Draceana Marginata leaf drop -- jen, 01:43:15 04/10/02 Wed [1]
i just got this same education at walmart today..i was also advised to use charcoal or pearlite to help with drainage--i have a plastic inner pot holding 3 older, repotted draceana m's and then another ceramic pot underneath for style and draining..i was also given a spray to kill the bugs (i saw them too)...between over-watering, bugs, drainage issues, too much light, and overgrown roots, a "low maitenance" plant became a project--now i am reviving drooping giant cala lilies with damp soil and bugs!
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Re: Draceana Marginata leaf drop -- maggie, 18:57:57 04/10/02 Wed [1]
I love when someone revives a thread and to my surprise I wrote in it! I wonder how Talon's Dracena's are now! Talon?
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