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Date Posted: 19:23:10 11/25/01 Sun
: Beware the Rules of Forum Etiquette
Post Date: 10/12/2001 11:46:47 AM (Eastern USA) Edit
Author: Leggy
I believe that when you post regularly on a forum you come to know people to a certain extent. Some of the things they post will make you laugh...some will make you think...some will touch you....some will anger you. All of these are human emotions...and you will never please all of the people...all of the time.
Some post on here to elicit reactions or responses from others...some post just for others to read...and perhaps enjoy. I will admit that I'm not a "poetry" person...never have been...probably never will be. But one of the things, in my opinion, that makes this forum fun is the diversity of the people posting here.
I have seen the members of this forum be witty....be serious....be solicitous...understanding....I have seen them "mock" each other in good humor....and I have seen them come to anothers' aid when needed.
I'm rambling here...I suppose what I'm trying to convey is this....when someone pokes fun at you on a public forum, I believe it should be taken lightly. I think that most of us come here to relax and have a good time...humor is a natural part of that.
I will admit that some of Pilgrim's posts annoyed me....they seemed to carry an "accusatory" tone. I confronted him publicly about several specific posts....he disagreed....and we went on from there.
I'm certainly not innocent by any stretch of the imagination....I have been accused of having a rather "biting" wit at times. And I do tend to "speak my mind" upon occasion as well. But I honestly....and I can say this in good conscience....have never went out of my way to "hurt" anyone on this forum...and I don't think I ever would....it's not the way I am. And, quite frankly....I don't know of anyone ON this forum who does that. Making fun of someone is one thing....attempting to hurt them is quite another.
So please guys...enter this forum with an open mind....and know that this is a place where everyone is welcome...and the main objectives are to share thoughts and just have FUN together. Everyone will not always agree....so let's all agree now to DISAGREE at times....but to move on from there, knowing we have learned more about the other person.
I would welcome your thoughts and comments on this topic....and I'd like for everyone to know that I have a "thick" skin....so honesty is not a problem for me at all.
Thanks for listening....
Post Date: 10/12/2001 12:55:15 PM (Eastern USA) Edit
Author: Suzanne
Leggy, I have not seen intentional attempts to harm * another here on this Forum. I have stepped back a few times and re read some posts and then just shrugged and let the statements stand, without a response! Am not avoiding controversy so much as enjoying the diversity of thoughts!
If there is an offense, Leggy, it is wise* to address the person directly to understand what was the intent of the words. Guess that is the best way to be in real life even ya know ?
I don't agree with everyone here, nor do I need* to be right (much lol). Secretly, I love to be right and try my hardest to allow other ideas into my thick skull lmao.
We all go through emotional passages as the world turns! Sometimes personalities clash! I think that might be healthy if respect is maintained and direct one-on-one communication is established! Often respect means that we discuss the topic, and not the personality cause at any given moment we all can feel some hurt, huh ?
Post Date: 10/12/2001 12:58:40 PM (Eastern USA) Edit
Author: Suzanne
erm Leggy? I must be an outsider, cause I just noticed that the topic, "Who is She?" is no longer on the Forum! ... How come?
Post Date: 10/12/2001 1:24:23 PM (Eastern USA) Edit
Author: Leigh
Home Page: Stamporanium
First off, Leggy I would like to congratulate you on this forum. I enjoy reading it on a daily basis over my morning tea. I find it articulate, witty and thought provoking at times.
I will honestly admit that when I first came here, I did not really care for you. Why? I'm not sure as I did not really know you. Much to my shame, I fell into the "trap" of judging you based on things that I had heard from others. I was extremely disappointed in myself because I am an open-minded person and I allowed pettiness to cloud my judgement.
What I have learned, by reading and contributing here, is that you and I are very similar in many ways. Personally, I do not think that is an insult to either one of us... though your opinion might differ. We are both opinionated, possess sardonic wit and our views on many situations are quite alike. We both speak our minds, however stinging it might be, and other people tend to get defensive when we do. I think that if the circumstances in which we first began acknowledging each other were different, we could have perhaps been good friends.
The forums SHOULD be a place where people can come to have fun. Sometimes we have a bit of mockery and mischieviousness; however, I don't feel that posting maliciously hurtful and extremely personal comments against another should be tolerated. A public forum is not the best medium to rectify the situation if you do have an issue with another as others tend to get involved, perhaps unintentionally, and, before you know it, you have a complete mess on your hands. This is a great concern if your forum is frequented by those who prove their childishness and vindictiveness with every keystroke.
But if that occurs on your forum -- what do you do? Ban them? Delete their posts? Doing either opens up a new can of worms...
You might have heard that I have removed my own forum. For some time now, I have been having an issue with someone, whom I thought was a close friend, began posting malicious and slanderous untruths about me in her anger and hurt regarding a situation that occured many months ago. When I grew tired of the constant belittling and harassment, I began ignoring her thinking that it would stop. However, I was wrong. She began posting on various other forums the same things over and over again. Now, after four months, she is still continuing her behaviour. Posting on forums, emails and malicious entries in the guestbook of my website.
After a year of administering my forum, I grew tired of the personal attacks on my character. One should not constantly have to defend herself on her own forum. I find it completely immature to go on a forum of someone you dislike, attack them and NOT expect them to defend themself. I felt, on Mike's counsel, that this situation was not just going to "go away" by itself, so we took pains to make it go away. At least to the point where we do not have to deal with it on a daily basis. If anyone here did enjoy the forum from time to time, or even posted, as I know you did occasionally, Leggy, and thank you, we apologise for shutting it down.
I enjoy posting on the forums. This one and a few others that I frequent. I believe that it is an interesting approach to get to know some people that you might not normally have the opportunity to converse with. I was so disheartened by the decision to shut my forum down, that I did begin another one. Unfortunately, I have had to take the measurement of asking the contributors on the forum to register. It might seem unnecessary to some who will read this, but to me, I felt that it was an appropriate action. All are welcome on the new forum as long as they abide by the rule that there will be ZERO TOLERANCE in regard to maliciously attacking others. I did not require my members to register because I wanted to exclude certain individuals, or to pry into their personal information, etc. I chose that options because it only allows people to post under the handle that they registered with. When you begin to have the Anonymous postings, you begin to have trouble and it was our intent to make the new forum into something the old forum lacked -- a sense of community. We are on day four and we already have 15 members and over 300 posts. I would say that we are on the right road to achieving our goal.
I'm off track...
Leggy, I find your topic to be extremely insightful. You DO have a wonderful group of articulate and intelligent contributors to this forum. I applaud you. Who would have thunk that a "bunch of pornheads" could be so damn insightful? ~wink~ Kidding. I know, lame joke, but kudos to you and the rest of the Pics Room regulars. Your forum proves that there is more to people than what first meets the eye.
I do have to comment about Pilgrim's posts though. I, too, felt the same about his posts on my own forum and we, as he said, "danced around each other" for many months. Then I met Pilgrim in person and we were able to get a better understanding of each other. It was definitely well worth the effort on his part. He is a good friend to have.
What a lot of people sometimes do not understand is that some people only show specific facets of their personalities in the forum, chat or wherever.... it is not necessarily who they are on a regular basis. It does not necessarily mean that they are not who they appear to be either. There are many parts that make up the "whole."
We should be celebrating our differences instead of criticising them. The world would be an extremely boring place if we were all alike.
I know that this is cliche, but variety IS the spice of life.
In closing, I would like to express my appreciation to you, Leggy, for allowing me to post here and welcoming my thoughts and opinions. Thank you.
Post Date: 10/12/2001 2:19:46 PM (Eastern USA) Edit
Author: SexyCop (Jeff)
Leggy's skin is "thick"....... in all the RIGHT places.
Good post, sweetie
Post Date: 10/12/2001 3:42:44 PM (Eastern USA) Edit
Author: Kev
I too feel this forum is outstanding. And as for Pil- I admit he does seem to take things the wrong way (Im NOT saying he did this particualar time) I know that he has had some VERY wrong ideas about me. I think vendictive sources are to blame.
He has questioned my WORD. There is no bigger NO-NO in the universe for me. If I give a pledge/promise/my word on something- it is rock solid. When it comes to this- to be perfectly honest- I know of no safer place to store a secret.
I wanted to rip his head off for that- but I restrained for two reasons: first- his perception of me is clouded by opinions of others and most importantly- he means well- his intentions were good.
The reason Im bringing this up is because I feel that calling THIS forum a fight causing one is ridiculous. This is what a forum should be like: open, intelligent, humorous, thoughtful and most of all- unintrusive.
Who cares if this was originally for the "Pics Room people"? It has grown far beyond that. And anyone that has a problem with people sharing pics is a.... what's the word I'm looking for.... a retard! (I love using childish words to describe childish people)
PSD & Leggy- you should be quite proud of this puppy. It is easy for anyone to feel at home here. You guys have set an outstanding example.
as the Dahm Triplets say to me all the time after an all night foursome...
KEEP IT UP!
Post Date: 10/12/2001 3:46:29 PM (Eastern USA) Edit
Author: POTSMOKINDUDE
YEAH WHAT LEGGY SAID !!!!!! LEGGY,,,,What you said was perfect babe,,,, Everytime I read one of your posts,,,,, It makes me realize why I love you so much ,,,Don't ever change baby *kiss*
Post Date: 10/12/2001 3:52:13 PM (Eastern USA) Edit
Author: POTSMOKINDUDE
And thank you all,,, Suzanne,,,Leigh,,,kev,,,sexy cop,,, Leggy and I are glad you all feel welcome and enjoy coming here ,,,
Post Date: 10/12/2001 4:01:53 PM (Eastern USA) Edit
Author: Leigh
My apologies, PSD, I neglected to mention you specifically. Congratulations on a job well done and, btw, I just love your column.
Cheers!
Post Date: 10/12/2001 11:11:40 PM (Eastern USA) Edit
Author: Pilgrim
Slogan: Forever Eh - Musing
well so many opinions, so little facts...and Kevin, for the first time, may i say i do understand from where you venture at times.
for the record criticism of the content always welcomed, criticim of one's self simply out of line, whether me or another. sorry if i offended, would appreciate the same in return.
and i do believe that like other issues, such as sexual harassment or abuse or whatever, it is the perception of the receiver that matters most.
wish you all well ..truly. be safe and be well
and if you shall permit, allow me to share with you an excerpt by one who says more of my soul and of whom i am, and certainly more eloquently than i ever might...
**********
It doesn't interest me what you do for a living. I want to know what you ache for, and if you dare to dream of meeting your heart's longing.
It doesn't interest me how old you are. I want to know if you will risk looking like a fool for love, for your dream, for the adventure of being alive.
It doesn't interest me what planets are squaring your moon. I want to know if you have touched the center of your own sorrow, if you have been opened by life's betrayals or have become shriveled and closed from fear of further pain! I want to know if you can sit with pain, mine or your own, without moving to hide it or fade it, or fix it. I want to know if you can be with JOY, mine or your own; if you can dance with wildness and let the ecstasy fill you to the tips of your fingers and toes without cautioning us to be careful, be realistic, or to remember the limitations of being human.
It doesn't interest me if the story you are telling me is true. I want to know if you can disappoint another to be true to yourself; if you can bear the accusation of betrayal and not betray your own soul. I want to know if you can be faithful and therefore be trustworthy. I want to know if you can see beauty even when it is not pretty everyday,
and if you can source your life on the edge of the lake and shout to the silver of the full moon.
It doesn't interest me to know where you live or how much money you have. I want to know if you can get up after a night of grief and despair, weary and bruised to the bone, and do what needs to be done for the children.
It doesn't interest me who you know or how you came to be here. I want to know if you will stand in the center of the fire with me and not shrink back.
It doesn't interest me where or what or with whom you have studied. I want to know what sustains you from the inside when all else falls away. I want to know if you can be alone with yourself and if you truly like the company you keep in the empty moments.
by
Oriah Mountain Dreamer
Post Date: 10/12/2001 11:23:37 PM (Eastern USA) Edit
Author: Leigh
That is a beautiful poem, P.
Post Date: 10/12/2001 11:42:51 PM (Eastern USA) Edit
Author: Pilgrim
Slogan: Forever Eh - Musing
well Leigh if i could bloody well figure out how to logon to your new forum it might be posted there LOL
oh and i need the url for that forum...
and thanx but she wrote it ...
Post Date: 10/13/2001 12:58:41 AM (Eastern USA) Edit
Author: Kev
LMAO... um- no comment about the above post Pil.
Anyhoos, thanks guy. You seem to have a history of people getting mad at you for what may seem like little reasons. Now- don't get me wrong, travelin man- I am in NO way saying I'm a sage of the world- but I think alot of things you say are taken wrong.
They are from the heart, Im sure, and USUALLY mean no real harm- but I guess it is just a twitch in communication. I think you are basically an alright guy and; though you have said things to piss me off- I try to look at your intent rather than your words.
I have never mentioned this before, but I have had multiple people say to me "You sound like Pilgrim when you say that". I guess when you and I try tohelp others, we have a similiar approach. Imagine that!
Truly- as you would say- be well, friend....
and Mario will be back very soon- so laugh it up while you can, eh?
Post Date: 10/13/2001 1:03:47 AM (Eastern USA) Edit
Author: Leigh
Home Page: Stamporanium
Well, P, the link for my forum is right here. It is very simple... when you get to the forum page... click on Log In... your password and it will take you to your control center. From there you can navigate your way to Stamporanium. The first time or so, if you are not familiar with the set up, will be difficult.
As long as you are not logged in, you are free to read, but not post. If you could manage to find the time to log into MSN, I could explain it more in-depth and walk you thru it.
Anyway, we are off topic here.
I would like to say though ~getting back on topic~ tonight I was told by someone who posts on my forum (out of respect I would like to keep her identity confidential) that she lost respect for me because I made it clear that I wanted no slandering or malicious comments made on the new forum. Her argument was that the "Pics People" have slandered me in the past. ~shrug~ It may be true, it may not be true. I do not know. Nor do I care because it is in the past, and we, as mature adults, have moved beyond that and forged ahead with a semblence of understanding and tolerance of each others differences. Water under the bridge. Bygones being bygones.
I suppose I just found it extremely disheartening that, in doing what I truly believed to be the right thing, I was looked down upon and insulted.
The valuable lesson that I learned today is that is sometimes difficult trying to please everyone and keep your head above the water at the same time without drowing in the flood of emotions, accusations and betrayals of those whom you might have considered to be your friends.
I guess that sometimes life is a difficult pill to swallow, but we should, for the most part, be true to ourselves. If that means losing the "respect" of some who consider integrity and honour something to be ashamed of, I really didn't lose anything at all, but, rather, gained a powerful insight to the essence of their being.
Post Date: 10/13/2001 1:18:00 AM (Eastern USA) Edit
Author: Poe
I know to whom you are referring, Leigh, and if what you say is true- I respect that. Considering the nature of that "forum" (I don't want to argue about that) it is definitely the best policy not to bash people that can't or don't post there. Like you said- (last time I looked) they were not there to defend themselves.
I can only imagine the trouble it would cause if people that can't/don't post there would get bashed.
Good policy. Stick to your guns.
Post Date: 10/13/2001 1:50:42 AM (Eastern USA) Edit
Author: Leggy
Suze...thanks for your post...and you'll be happy to know that I did indeed take your advice and emailed Pilgrim...and even received a reply. I don't think he would mind me saying that we have agreed to disagree...but in a "kinder, gentler" way. *smile* And all of Pil's previous posts were deleted by psd at Pilgrim's request....I would never delete a topic of someone's elses without them requesting it unless it was harmful in any way to others.
Leigh...thank you for those kind words...and believe me when I say it was NOT a secret that you didn't care for me when you first started coming here...*laughing* I have just finished reading your new forum....and I see that you have had a problem with someone for merely asking that your forum not be used as a "bashing board"...particularly against the pics people...and I thank you for standing up for your principles. And I will tell you also....that your name was NEVER mentioned on our forum...nor were you the topic of any conversations that I know of within the "pics clique". Leigh...none of us knew you....and I realize that things were told to you which is the reason you retaliated in a way. I'm here to tell you NOW....those were absolute and complete "fabrications"....I still to this day do not know WHY they were told...except that perhaps the perpetrator wished to use your forum then as a means of getting her message out. And I will say that for someone to be "proud" of having a forum shut down where everyone was peaceful and cooperative....just shows how maniacal and vindictive some people can be. I'd like to register on your board in the near future and post occasionally....had only hesitated before BECAUSE of the possibility that it would aggravate that situation....and didn't wish for it to in any way diminish your space...I'm sure you can understand. Thanks again for your kind words...and for taking the time to visit here and get to know us a little.
Kev...thanks for your comments....I can SO relate to them! I am in the communications business...so I tend to take the written word literally at times...not a good idea in a forum...ya know? And I'm so glad you enjoy our forum....we certainly enjoy having you here...and your posts are always thoughtful and intelligent...or just downright "fun".
SexyCop...hehe @ the "thick skin" thing....but I'll have you know I only weigh seven pounds more NOW than my "fighting weight" in college...HA!
psd...love ya, babe....my partner in crime...AND on this forum....*kiss*
And last...but certainly not least...Pilgrim....*handshake*....and *kiss on the cheek*
Post Date: 10/13/2001 2:01:43 AM (Eastern USA) Edit
Author: Leigh
Home Page: Stamporanium
Leggy, you are welcome and thank you for you kind words as well.
I would like to stress that EVERYONE is welcome to post on our forum. It is true that you do have to register; however, Mike and I decided that registration would be the best solution in our attempt to diminish the possibility of those anonymous vindictive and slanderous postings.
Our forum is not as "serious" and thought provoking as this one can be at times; however, we do have a lot of fun there and the images that are posted are all in good humour. It gives people a chance to show a bit more of their creative flair.
We welcome anyone who posts on this forum to check us out.
And, Kev, what I say IS true. Leggy, among others, has see it and you can read it for yourself.
Post Date: 10/13/2001 10:08:49 AM (Eastern USA) Edit
Author: jason
great replies everyone (well,ALMOST everyone but i digress,lol).
i remember when this forum started,the topics were the usual "sex" related ones (NOT that there's anything wrong with it)and it grew from there to the point were at a moment of crisis,this board was used to allow some of us to tell everyone we were ok.
i guess it was easy for some to place a label on this forum in the beginning but it's harder to do now.
Ok, about the "fighting"....considering some of the big-mouths that frequent here,it shouldn't come as any surprise there's some disagreements or name-calling.
But that doesn't mean there's hatred,i like to think we would be able to disagree with one another without "scaring" someone.
I've never been an agreeable sort nor do i wish to curtail that aspect of my personality just because someone gets frightened.
So thanks to everyone who's posted here,who has read my ramblings and to PSD and Leggy for creating this.
Post Date: 10/13/2001 10:56:28 PM (Eastern USA) Edit
Author: Pilgrim
Slogan: Forever Eh - Musing
geez perception is amazing.....
first..had said all i could about She without saying who...
second ..was tired and edgy from personal stuff + persoanl remarks
third, sometimes people take me wrong... dang but they do react
and fourth, Leigh, dont go telling folks i am nice ... i have worked hard here damnit
and last? Leggy we did correspond ..but what we disagrred on , gently was you professing to love me, and overwhelming desire to meet and be with me. alas, i declined with respect.
just kidding Leggy ... or am i
Post Date: 10/13/2001 11:43:36 PM (Eastern USA) Edit
Author: Suzanne
Well all is well in River City after all! Thanks Leggy, Pilgrim, et al. It is so hard to maintain understanding in chat at times and words can be so misconstrued.
Good group of people here with diversified ideas and ways to communicate. I have learned much from you all. Happy to be here if only periodically ...
Post Date: 10/14/2001 12:51:04 AM (Eastern USA) Edit
Author: Leggy
Pilgrim...that's not exactly chivalrous of you to tell everyone how you broke my heart...*sob*
Post Date: 10/14/2001 1:12:09 AM (Eastern USA) Edit
Author: Pilgrim
Slogan: Forever Eh - Musing
~sob~ well now they all know .. and a rumour dies a sad slow ending....
anyways leggy i do appreciate the effort u made to email me....and the respect for Her privacy along the way
be well and be happy where and when you can
Post Date: 10/14/2001 1:47:18 AM (Eastern USA) Edit
Author: Leigh
Home Page: Stamporanium
Alright, Pilgrim, I apologise. I promise not to tell anyone how nice and compassionate you really are, IF you promise not to tell anyone how shy and sweet I really am. ~attempting to muster one of my "stern" looks~ I DO have a reputation to maintain you know. Heh heh...
Post Date: 10/14/2001 9:10:02 AM (Eastern USA) Edit
Author: Pilgrim
Slogan: Forever Eh - Musing
LOL and if i slip?
is that a breach of CONTACT?
Post Date: 10/14/2001 9:26:13 AM (Eastern USA) Edit
Author: Leigh
Home Page: Stamporanium
Yes. Grrrr. It is. ~laffin~
Post Date: 10/14/2001 10:23:41 AM (Eastern USA) Edit
Author: Leggy
Well now...since we have this topic already in place....do any of you live by any "rules" on chat...or in this forum....or online in general?
I have one rule I've always stuck to. When you get to know someone online, you may decide, upon trusting that person, to give out personal information such as your phone #'s or last name or whatever. No matter how the liaison ends...I don't think there is EVER an instance where you should divulge that information to another. To do so would be a complete and total breach of confidence and if I ever witnessed anyone doing this to another, I would lose all respect for that person.
I also don't care for those who post anonymously just for the express purpose of insulting or hurting someone else.
Do any of you guys have "rules to live by" in the cyber world...either on chat or in forums?
Post Date: 10/14/2001 10:53:44 AM (Eastern USA) Edit
Author: Pilgrim
Slogan: Forever Eh - Musing
me?
1. say what i feel, hope it doesn't offend, and when it does thru the perception of another, try to own and make amends.
practice makes puuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrfect
2. never acknowledge or talk to anonymous or guests, etc
3. privacy respected ..of course... geez
4. keep trying to talk to others who might 'dislike' me for some reason, don't close them out, for they too have something from which i can learn.
rest? well, maybe later
Post Date: 10/14/2001 12:02:08 PM (Eastern USA) Edit
Author: silky blonde lady
Slogan: live, laugh, love fully ...
Three absolute rules...AND one opinion:
l. Only polish toenails while chatting.
2. Avoid giving the puter anything to eat or drink.
3. Log off when forehead hits the keyboard too
many times and your messages are qwjfut[tb[d/.
And, if you trust someone with personal info, it
should be honored, and held in confidence
"no matter what". To give it out, or post it,
is tacky AND so trashy. YUK!
Post Date: 10/14/2001 3:47:53 PM (Eastern USA) Edit
Author: Suzanne
Have devised new rules for myself online.
1. Make outlandish statements, be as silly as can be ... and laugh as much as I can, within my own integrity cause I have to live with me.
2. Be straight up that I won't cyber but will 'flirt'
3. Learn how* to ignore pm's that are offensive!
4. If someone wants it "be a friend" ... If they don't ... walk away
5. Don't take anyone seriously unless I know them well!!!
6. Don't get offended by the ones seeking undue attention via topics that are *sick* ... state the truth and iggy the damn sucker away !! waste of my time !
7. Always talk to a friend and try to repair a misunderstanding ... friends are few online but they are to be cherished ...
8. Learn to leave chat as what it really is: a place for people to play and be someone they are not lmao ... seems that is reality now to me ...
9. Never give my heart away again online period !!!! Care, yes! be concerned! Yes again! Keep heart separate though ... something hard to do for a person like me BUT I am gonna do it!!!
Post Date: 10/14/2001 4:28:21 PM (Eastern USA) Edit
Author: Pilgrim
Slogan: :) Forever Eh - Musing
umm ..maybe some rules need to be broken, for else they become chains around our growth. sometimes. rules may be more of a personal safety net, reliant on our persoanl belief system, which may in fact be inaccurate and unrealistic.
but what do i know ??? LOL
Post Date: 10/14/2001 10:41:10 PM (Eastern USA) Edit
Author: Leggy
You just have to learn to BEND the rules, Pil...and then if you get into trouble...claim "ignorance"...*innocent look*....usually works for me...
Post Date: 10/14/2001 11:14:41 PM (Eastern USA) Edit
Author: Pilgrim
Slogan: Forever Eh - Musing
LOL ... a little flexability is useful ... but at times the whole damn rule ..like the taliban .. has to be completely overthrown.
<--ain't no innocent virgin LOL .. naive maybe, tho ?
Post Date: 10/15/2001 12:24:39 AM (Eastern USA) Edit
Author: Suzanne
Now these rules are not forged in stone! actually, they are "ideas", "considerations" I want to incorporate into my thinking so I won't get upset at times in the rooms and will float like a butterfly when chatting
Post Date: 10/15/2001 12:57:22 AM (Eastern USA) Edit
Author: jason
i figured you were ignorant cause you were from the south....so i don't buy it being an "act".
Post Date: 10/15/2001 1:03:26 AM (Eastern USA) Edit
Author: Leggy
*ouch*
Post Date: 10/15/2001 4:38:04 AM (Eastern USA) Edit
Author: Baby Blue Eyes (F)
Slogan: ZZZZZZZZZZ's
Oops must have slept through the lecture on rules and etiquette !!!!!
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