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| Subject: SAME ISP# YET DIFFERENT NAME/O.F.R.N. (NOT) | |
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Author: BILLYT Author Host/IP: 209.4.45.156 |
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Date Posted: 04:06:06 03/22/06 Wed Not but a few weeks ago I mentioned about those eyes-and ears that are listening and watching every board that pertains to the breed on the web.If one doubts this then go back to web sites that abounded and now deserted either because of the language or content or as many have the web site they were on throw their site off. This forum does not condone illegal activeity's,but with that said one cannot deny the fact of the breeds past history.To try and get to what is false and what is as close to being correctone has to fall back on the history of the breed and in most cases that is where things are taken the wrong way. Question:I know for a fact that lies will catch up with one sooner or later,given enough time and enough rope for the hanging. Why is it that one goes out of he way to use a different name when calling someone out. It really makes one look foolish as the ISP NUMBERS are carried over to one name used to another name used. I'am sorry but there is alot smarter people finally getting it now then before(meaning two diffeerent names but the same isp#'s). Useing this fram of mine makes those who do this practice look stupid. I can understand that not everyone is going to agree or get along with each other and that is fine as its human nature to argue and dissagree with one another. E-MAIL-If one feels that what one has to say to another is in the best interest of the forum then this tool becomes very useful.Yet if one looks at the posts one would notice that some cannot even choose to go to it even with the e-mail. Those that use their names are but a few that many would know as soon as one sees it. Others are just wondering who the new names with the same isp numbers are. Believe or not there is quite a few people that want some answers to the questions they seek. There are probally more that are confused reading some of the posts as what they see is a war game going on.And yet they donot get the answers. The post about the already pedigrees and their id numbers attached surely will help some understand it clearer,so appreciation is order for doing that. Now on the OLD FAMILY REDNOSE DOGS-----------( NOT)---------THERE IS NONE IN TODAYS WORLD UNLESS ONE WANTS TO GO BY PERCENTAGES. AND THOSE WHO SEEK HIGHER PERCENTAGES ON DOGS WITH SOME OFRN BLOOD IN TODAYS DOG HAS TO LOOK CLOSE. Fact-the old family rednose known years and years ago also carried the black nose and even a different color (brindle) for the new comer this may sound far fetched but its true. What took part in history eyons ago is done and over with. As said if one wants as much of the so called ofrn blood and what genes are left it has to be done on a percentage rating. The article on Maruice-------should be told in depth,not to disscredit the man as he was one of the best breeders,and handlers,and judges and story tellers the sport had. As far as the story on how he really bred his dogs is another story altogether. I do know if the man took a shine to you and he took you into his confidence he would give you or in some cases give you a deal of a life time.But there were just a few that fell into that catorgory. However he was not the first one to sell dogs with the wrong breeding as there were many before. That is why I said in past posts there is nobody today that can honestly say that the dog they own.That the dogs pedigree is 100% true. I will say this getting an incorrect breeding on a dog from Maruice was as good as most that were true.And if one was in his grace and got to see what he really bred to and one was able to purchase or given one to it would blow peoples mind. But again Maruice was not the one that started doing the breeding of dogs and telling the truth there were plenty long before him. Fact-today there is many dogs that carry the names of some rednose dogs that are comon to many,yet many will never know who these dogs are as for some reason only a handfull will let it out.But since time is about I have most of to kill on this pc and calling in favors I learned quite a bit that there is more rednose blood being mixed and produceing some of the dogs of today that stand above the rest. No the names will be kept as they that made it happen wanted and if one looks carefully one can indeed find those that chose to put it on the pedigrees. Now that does not mean all are rednose as some are black but both go back to what was ofrn.Again in percentages only. Now for the ( RIPLEYS BELIEVE IT OR NOT) IF ONE AND HOW ONE WOULD ACCOMPLISH THAT WAS ABLE TO LOCATE WHAT IS STILL AROUND TODAY BUT NEVER TALKED ABOUT EXCEPT IN THE MOST HIGHLY GUARDED SECRETS. FOR THE RECORD AS THERE CALLED ( IRISH REDS) AND NO I HAVE SEEN PICTURES OF THEM THAT A FRIEND WAS TO PURCHASE MANY YEARS AGO.ALOT OF HUNTING AND BEING ABLED TO BE TRUSTED TOOK PLACE. BUT IT NEVER TOOK PLACE PRIVATE COMPLICATIONS ARROSS THAT STOPPED IT FROM HAPPENING. AND THE NERE PRICE EVEN WITH THE TRUST AND BEING HONEST STILL WAS A HAFTY PRICE OF TEN GRAND. As to questions asked many times over throughout the years if there is any such dog known as IRISH REDS in the states is unknown as far as I myself knew. But whether one believe it or not its said the dogs still exsit.And they donot go under anyother name. I used to refer to them as IRISH RED STAFFORDS BUT STAFFORDS CAME FROM ENGLAND.HOWEVER THEY DID INDEED LOOK SIMULAR TO THE STAFFORDSHIRE BULL.IN WEIGHT AND HIGHT NOT IN THE STOCKYNESS THOUGH. IF ONE BELIEVE THIS THEN ONE MUST KNOW THERE ARE NOT THAT MANY LEFT-HOW MANY IS UNKNOWN. SOME SAY A PICTURE IS WORTH A THOUSAND WORDS. THOSE WHO ARE STILL ACTIVE OVER THERE WITH THEM AND THOSE BREEDING THEM DON'T LET THEM GO ANYWHERE UNLESS ONE GAINS THE TRUST OF THOSE THAT STILL HAVE THEM. I will say this also I cannot verify whether or not they are in the blood of the apbt or not.But then again what really is an apbt as so many countries took credit for the dogs that made the apbt,so where does it begin and where does it end. For the record this forum cannot say the history of the breed know as the AMERICAN PIT BULL TERRIER IS TRUE OR FALSE ALSO IF THERE IS ANY SUCH ANIMAL KNOWN AS THE O.F.R.N EXSIST TODAY IN SOME TYPE OF PERCENTAGE THAT MIGHT BE CONDIDERED TIGHT. One can read till one goes blind and find that the authors condredicted themselfs here and there. Stories that carried merit are so bumbled up they donot reseble the orginal ones that were true or were they. This breed should be titled the dog called the apbt believe it or not. For those that seek the truth use your own judgement or look to those that spent nearly all their lifes with the dogs. And if one is looking for a good dog and correct pedigree don't go by 6-7-8-9-10 generations go by the first three that you can verify for sure. Again to those that post on here let me say for what its worth its really enjoyable to say the least,thanks [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] |
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| Re: SAME ISP# YET DIFFERENT NAME/O.F.R.N. (NOT) | jrb (206.116.33.170) | 21:30:08 03/27/06 Mon |
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