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Date Posted: 15:48:44 03/16/06 Thu In reply to: Mark Mallard 's message, "If you could turn back time..." on 13:48:31 03/15/06 Wed >Here’s a hypothetical question… > >Let’s turn back time. Back to the time when Geronimo >II was still alive. >If you had access to that dog and were in a position >to cross him, with the intention of bringing that >cross back to Geronimo II, in order to continue a >predominately OFRN yard, what bloodline would you take >him too? I would cross Geronimo II to the "Dibo" dogs. Basically picking up where Hemphill left off. The Dibo dogs changed the game forever. Geronimo II was alive in the late 60's so I would take a inbred granddaughter of Dibo bred like this. <a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=1190">http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=1190</a> Once you start breaking down the pedigree you will notice Ch.Snip is about 2/3 OFRN thru Feeley, Shipley, Corcoran, Corvino, Williams and a sprinkle of Lightner. She is also about 43.5% Dibo. I have had several people ask me why I'm doing this breeding, I'll explain why. <a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=164642">http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=164642</a> Ch.Snip was bred to her littermate brother Mayfield's Nigger(ROM) and produced Mayfield's Spookie. Nigger was then bred to Spookis to produce Mayfield's Sunshine. Sunshine was bred to Trussell's Georgia(inbred Spike x Black Widow) who is almost an 1/8th Lightner thru Trussell's China Boy(pure Lightner). Now from the Sunshine x Georgia breeding produced Mayfield's Little Georgia. Little Georgia was bred to Sunshine's littermate brother Pusher which produced Mayfield's Goldie. Goldie was bred to Sunshine and produced this dog. <a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=2131">http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=2131</a> Swamper when bred to his 1/2 sister first cousin produced this dog. <a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=2136">http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=2136</a> Brasken has almost the same identical make up of Swamper. The only difference is Miss Cetiva, Swamper's dam's littermate sister. The only outcross or fresh blood in Ch.Is-Not's ped is thru Ch Alligator( Carver's Ironhead & Reno) and Sofiakis' Black Beauty(Stu Flower). When all said and done Ch.Is-Not is still around 2/3 OFRN. As far as a similar cross done with success I think Maloney's Ch.Slasher is the closest. <a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=1758">http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=1758</a> Maloney used Fancy the female he got from Hemphill before he died and crossed her to Ch.Toot(Spike x Black Widow). When crossed and put in performance breeders hands the Hemphill dogs could produce some excellent match dogs. As I was thinking about successful crosses I came back to the cross in my dogs. Iron Mike used Red Devil(Corvino, Neblett) crossed it with two females. Mitzie(heavy Hemphill) and Gr.Ch.Taffy(ROM) who is heavy Williams to form the Norrod bloodline. The breakdown of the bloodline is Feeley, Corvino, Shipley, Lightner, Neblett and Williams making it heavy OFRN. Another cross I would do is to take Geronimo II to a daughter of Eli. Once again back to the Dibo dogs but with a different twist. Eli is heavy in the blood that made up Dibo and with a dash of the original Cole dogs. The original Cole dogs were a combination of Lightner(red and black blood) and Dibo, many considered I.D. Cole to have the best OFRN dogs. I did this breeding a few months back and only time will tell how successful it will be. <a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=177114">http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=177114</a> > >We have the advantage of seeing what worked and what >did not, what would you have done? [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] |
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