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Subject: Re: If you could turn back time...


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Date Posted: 07:59:47 03/17/06 Fri
In reply to: Danger 's message, "Re: If you could turn back time..." on 15:48:44 03/16/06 Thu

>>Here’s a hypothetical question…
>>
>>Let’s turn back time. Back to the time when Geronimo
>>II was still alive.
>>If you had access to that dog and were in a position
>>to cross him, with the intention of bringing that
>>cross back to Geronimo II, in order to continue a
>>predominately OFRN yard, what bloodline would you take
>>him too?
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heavy chain has been crossing the braskin blood into his line for years and likes it alot you guys should look him up he has some very nice brasken blood
>I would cross Geronimo II to the "Dibo" dogs.
>Basically picking up where Hemphill left off. The Dibo
>dogs changed the game forever.
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>Geronimo II was alive in the late 60's so I would take
>a inbred granddaughter of Dibo bred like this.
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><a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigr">http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigr</a>
>ee.php?dog_id=1190
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>Once you start breaking down the pedigree you will
>notice Ch.Snip is about 2/3 OFRN thru Feeley, Shipley,
>Corcoran, Corvino, Williams and a sprinkle of
>Lightner. She is also about 43.5% Dibo.
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>I have had several people ask me why I'm doing this
>breeding, I'll explain why.
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><a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigr">http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigr</a>
>ee.php?dog_id=164642
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>Ch.Snip was bred to her littermate brother Mayfield's
>Nigger(ROM) and produced Mayfield's Spookie. Nigger
>was then bred to Spookis to produce Mayfield's
>Sunshine. Sunshine was bred to Trussell's
>Georgia(inbred Spike x Black Widow) who is almost an
>1/8th Lightner thru Trussell's China Boy(pure
>Lightner).
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>Now from the Sunshine x Georgia breeding produced
>Mayfield's Little Georgia. Little Georgia was bred to
>Sunshine's littermate brother Pusher which produced
>Mayfield's Goldie. Goldie was bred to Sunshine and
>produced this dog.
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>ee.php?dog_id=2131
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>Swamper when bred to his 1/2 sister first cousin
>produced this dog.
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>ee.php?dog_id=2136
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>Brasken has almost the same identical make up of
>Swamper. The only difference is Miss Cetiva, Swamper's
>dam's littermate sister.
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>The only outcross or fresh blood in Ch.Is-Not's ped is
>thru Ch Alligator( Carver's Ironhead & Reno) and
>Sofiakis' Black Beauty(Stu Flower). When all said and
>done Ch.Is-Not is still around 2/3 OFRN.
>
>As far as a similar cross done with success I think
>Maloney's Ch.Slasher is the closest.
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>ee.php?dog_id=1758
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>Maloney used Fancy the female he got from Hemphill
>before he died and crossed her to Ch.Toot(Spike x
>Black Widow). When crossed and put in performance
>breeders hands the Hemphill dogs could produce some
>excellent match dogs.
>
>As I was thinking about successful crosses I came back
>to the cross in my dogs. Iron Mike used Red
>Devil(Corvino, Neblett) crossed it with two females.
>Mitzie(heavy Hemphill) and Gr.Ch.Taffy(ROM) who is
>heavy Williams to form the Norrod bloodline. The
>breakdown of the bloodline is Feeley, Corvino,
>Shipley, Lightner, Neblett and Williams making it
>heavy OFRN.
>
>Another cross I would do is to take Geronimo II to a
>daughter of Eli. Once again back to the Dibo dogs but
>with a different twist. Eli is heavy in the blood that
>made up Dibo and with a dash of the original Cole
>dogs. The original Cole dogs were a combination of
>Lightner(red and black blood) and Dibo, many
>considered I.D. Cole to have the best OFRN dogs.
>
>I did this breeding a few months back and only time
>will tell how successful it will be.
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>ee.php?dog_id=177114
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>>We have the advantage of seeing what worked and what
>>did not, what would you have done?

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