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Date Posted: 15:54:50 03/20/04 Sat
Author: Mike Rowbotham
Subject: Re: Rowbottom Gun Maker Birmingham
In reply to: martin gravenor 's message, "Re: Rowbottom Gun Maker Birmingham" on 11:22:57 03/18/04 Thu

I have been looking through some of my old emails for Thomas Rowbotham and found these:

If I remember correctly Ann Walsh may be linked to Thomas the gun stocker.

I do have some old email addresses for Joan Rowbotham and Ann Walsh, if you are interested to contact them, please contact me and I will send you details.

emails from Joan Rowbotham:
email 1
Hi: My husband William George R 's grandfather came over here in 1905.
Here being Canada. He came with three brothers. Fare acc. to family lore
paid by their very wealthy Uncle Thomas Rowbotham who lived near
Birmingham. The family lived in Gt Barr Street for years. First census
1840. Have discovered that John R who married Sarah Morral 11 Nov 1849 was
born in Uttoxoter. The above Thomas had one soe Sir Samuel HANSON
Rowbotham. I have the wills of both father and son and Thomas shows him a
man of property...Sir Hanson died without issue.
Any chance that we have connections. The family obviously moved from
B'ham to London. George Edward R was born in Stratford London 9 Jan 1887
and married a Bellis. Hope to hear from you. I am hoping to do some
research this coming year into the Uttoxeter connection. The first census
in 1840 says that John was not born in Warwickshire. His wife Elizabeth
was. The ages in that census are wild... Looking forward to hearing from
y ou Joan

email 2
Thanks for the info from Walsh ...I think I have a
her Thomas R in my census data. My Thomas R was son of John R and Sarah
Gad(s)by or Cadby. I have the latter's m. cert. Thomas was a builder...
he had one son Samuel Hanson Rowbotham who was knighted (Daddy was a big
supporter of the Conservative party!!). Thomas lived at Gilbertson Grange
just outside today's B'm. He also owned the Clay Farm property where
todays airport is...Plus much more. Hanson lived London and Isle of
Wight I have both wills... Thomas mentions all his brothers and sister
and the number of their children. My husband's gt grandfather (another
John) was T's brother. More later. Thanks for keeping in touch. Joan

email 3

Hi Mike: Do you want me to send you the info or Anne Walsh? For now here
are a few names I found in my data bank.
1851 Census UK FHL film #0087316
Ruebottom, Thomas 5 Grosvenor St W Ladywood Birmingham 27yrs GUNSTOCKER B
Birmingham WAR
" Caroline wife age 23yrs
S Robert age 8yrs B B'ham: son Thomas age 3yrs B B'ham and Ann age 1 B
B'ham.
#2
Rowbottom, Henry s of Rowbottom, ? and Maria a widow. 19yrs Gunmaker
Holloway Head, Ladywood Birmingham

Hope this helps,

MIke

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[> [> [> Re: Rowbottom Gun Maker Birmingham -- Blaize, 07:41:51 05/11/09 Mon

Does anyone know the dates of birth & death of Sir Samuel Hanson Rowbotham ?

>
>I have been looking through some of my old emails for
>Thomas Rowbotham and found these:
>
>If I remember correctly Ann Walsh may be linked to
>Thomas the gun stocker.
>
>I do have some old email addresses for Joan Rowbotham
>and Ann Walsh, if you are interested to contact them,
>please contact me and I will send you details.
>
>emails from Joan Rowbotham:
>email 1
>Hi: My husband William George R 's grandfather came
>over here in 1905.
>Here being Canada. He came with three brothers. Fare
>acc. to family lore
>paid by their very wealthy Uncle Thomas Rowbotham who
>lived near
>Birmingham. The family lived in Gt Barr Street for
>years. First census
>1840. Have discovered that John R who married Sarah
>Morral 11 Nov 1849 was
>born in Uttoxoter. The above Thomas had one soe Sir
>Samuel HANSON
>Rowbotham. I have the wills of both father and son
>and Thomas shows him a
>man of property...Sir Hanson died without issue.
>Any chance that we have connections. The family
>obviously moved from
>B'ham to London. George Edward R was born in
>Stratford London 9 Jan 1887
>and married a Bellis. Hope to hear from you. I am
>hoping to do some
>research this coming year into the Uttoxeter
>connection. The first census
>in 1840 says that John was not born in Warwickshire.
>His wife Elizabeth
>was. The ages in that census are wild... Looking
>forward to hearing from
>y ou Joan
>
>email 2
>Thanks for the info from Walsh ...I think I have a
>her Thomas R in my census data. My Thomas R was son
>of John R and Sarah
>Gad(s)by or Cadby. I have the latter's m. cert.
>Thomas was a builder...
>he had one son Samuel Hanson Rowbotham who was
>knighted (Daddy was a big
>supporter of the Conservative party!!). Thomas lived
>at Gilbertson Grange
>just outside today's B'm. He also owned the Clay Farm
>property where
>todays airport is...Plus much more. Hanson lived
>London and Isle of
>Wight I have both wills... Thomas mentions all his
>brothers and sister
>and the number of their children. My husband's gt
>grandfather (another
>John) was T's brother. More later. Thanks for
>keeping in touch. Joan
>
>email 3
>
>Hi Mike: Do you want me to send you the info or Anne
>Walsh? For now here
>are a few names I found in my data bank.
>1851 Census UK FHL film #0087316
>Ruebottom, Thomas 5 Grosvenor St W Ladywood Birmingham
> 27yrs GUNSTOCKER B
>Birmingham WAR
>" Caroline wife age 23yrs
>S Robert age 8yrs B B'ham: son Thomas age 3yrs B B'ham
>and Ann age 1 B
>B'ham.
>#2
>Rowbottom, Henry s of Rowbottom, ? and Maria a widow.
>19yrs Gunmaker
>Holloway Head, Ladywood Birmingham
>
>
>Hope this helps,
>
>MIke

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[> [> [> [> Re: Rowbottom Gun Maker Birmingham -- Helen Sadler nee Rowbotham, 15:38:37 01/14/13 Mon

Sir Hanson Rowbotham was my father's uncle I believe... Nigel William rowbotham ... And Aunty Rosemary Gale nee Rowbotham

I would be really interested to hear from you as looks like we may be related!!

Best wishes
Helen
>Does anyone know the dates of birth & death of Sir
>Samuel Hanson Rowbotham ?
>
>>
>>I have been looking through some of my old emails for
>>Thomas Rowbotham and found these:
>>
>>If I remember correctly Ann Walsh may be linked to
>>Thomas the gun stocker.
>>
>>I do have some old email addresses for Joan Rowbotham
>>and Ann Walsh, if you are interested to contact them,
>>please contact me and I will send you details.
>>
>>emails from Joan Rowbotham:
>>email 1
>>Hi: My husband William George R 's grandfather came
>>over here in 1905.
>>Here being Canada. He came with three brothers. Fare
>>acc. to family lore
>>paid by their very wealthy Uncle Thomas Rowbotham who
>>lived near
>>Birmingham. The family lived in Gt Barr Street for
>>years. First census
>>1840. Have discovered that John R who married Sarah
>>Morral 11 Nov 1849 was
>>born in Uttoxoter. The above Thomas had one soe Sir
>>Samuel HANSON
>>Rowbotham. I have the wills of both father and son
>>and Thomas shows him a
>>man of property...Sir Hanson died without issue.
>>Any chance that we have connections. The family
>>obviously moved from
>>B'ham to London. George Edward R was born in
>>Stratford London 9 Jan 1887
>>and married a Bellis. Hope to hear from you. I am
>>hoping to do some
>>research this coming year into the Uttoxeter
>>connection. The first census
>>in 1840 says that John was not born in Warwickshire.
>>His wife Elizabeth
>>was. The ages in that census are wild... Looking
>>forward to hearing from
>>y ou Joan
>>
>>email 2
>>Thanks for the info from Walsh ...I think I have a
>>her Thomas R in my census data. My Thomas R was son
>>of John R and Sarah
>>Gad(s)by or Cadby. I have the latter's m. cert.
>>Thomas was a builder...
>>he had one son Samuel Hanson Rowbotham who was
>>knighted (Daddy was a big
>>supporter of the Conservative party!!). Thomas lived
>>at Gilbertson Grange
>>just outside today's B'm. He also owned the Clay Farm
>>property where
>>todays airport is...Plus much more. Hanson lived
>>London and Isle of
>>Wight I have both wills... Thomas mentions all his
>>brothers and sister
>>and the number of their children. My husband's gt
>>grandfather (another
>>John) was T's brother. More later. Thanks for
>>keeping in touch. Joan
>>
>>email 3
>>
>>Hi Mike: Do you want me to send you the info or Anne
>>Walsh? For now here
>>are a few names I found in my data bank.
>>1851 Census UK FHL film #0087316
>>Ruebottom, Thomas 5 Grosvenor St W Ladywood Birmingham
>> 27yrs GUNSTOCKER B
>>Birmingham WAR
>>" Caroline wife age 23yrs
>>S Robert age 8yrs B B'ham: son Thomas age 3yrs B B'ham
>>and Ann age 1 B
>>B'ham.
>>#2
>>Rowbottom, Henry s of Rowbottom, ? and Maria a widow.
>>19yrs Gunmaker
>>Holloway Head, Ladywood Birmingham
>>
>>
>>Hope this helps,
>>
>>MIke

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