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Date Posted: 16:50:47 04/14/05 Thu
Author: PECAS
Subject: Re: well, my last post
In reply to: elia 's message, "well, my last post" on 16:03:47 04/14/05 Thu

>here you all have a BIG BIG problem:
>you just see everything through your couloured
>glasses, sticking on your view ignoring whether
>they're appropriate or not.

You did not give any opportunity to see Colonge UBF from your point of view because you would not discuss your ministry. I asked you to discuss the problems that you admit exist, but you declined. Chris gave an example of his experience with Abraham Lee and ubf.info.de also provides examples of Abraham Lee's behavior. You provided no response to what has been written or even offered one example of why Colonge UBF does not deserve teh criticism it receives.

>
>you see, ALL you write is the same and the same again
>and... you don't really amplify the writing of others,
>just wanting to stomp your own thoughts through. but
>what's the matter, to some of you here i'm seemingly
>not believable (see another post here on the board).
>somebody says "you are inconsistent" and then you ALL
>write: "you are inconsistent" sticking together in
>your thoughts like... huh, i don't know. concerning
>this, not a bit of rationality here which i was hoping
>to find...

I responded to all of your posts. I did not say that you were inconsistent. You accused me of generalization, yet you made an incorrect generalization here. I am sorry that you will not post again because I want to know what you find irrational about the responses to your posts.
>
>just a last comment:
>you don't be here. most of you never were. so no
>matter what you say and no matter how bad you want to
>say it: you CAN'T know what's going on here, you just
>think what you want to think and publicate it here on
>the forum to all appearances willing to tell the
>truth. but you all are commenting on things you don't
>even have a tiny little idea of. read carefully: i
>don't comment or judge on YOUR experiences, i never
>did that here. i always was referring to us HERE. you
>all just have lost the necessary objectivity... but
>that's what you think of me, too, right? so well, we
>can't help each other...

How could anyone have judged your experiences when you did not post any of your UBF experiences. Being a 2nd gen, you should have some relevant experiences to discuss. You seem to think that Colonge UBF is different from the other UBFs, yet you never provided any evidence.

I am willing to read tangible evidence given by UBF members of how their UBF is not an abusive, authoritarian, manipulative, works-based, human-centered environment.

Elia, I pray God be with you. I pray you may follow Christ if the abusive training have read about but have not yet experienced is suddenly and without warning forced upon you .

In Christ,

PECAS

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2nd gens and abuse - one thing to keep in mind -- Chris, 17:56:47 04/14/05 Thu
- Re: 2nd gens - another thing to keep in mind -- Chris, 18:06:26 04/14/05 Thu