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Date Posted: 13:27:53 02/13/05 Sun
Author: Nick T.
Subject: more accurate descriptions of ubf changes
In reply to: Sarah 's message, "Re: The Changing UBF" on 07:18:12 02/13/05 Sun

I think there is some truth in what Sarah has said, but she put an awful lot of spin on it all. I took the liberty of writing my own description of the changes in ubf. Sarah, please read this and comment.

ubf used to be an abusive and controlling cult group, a hierarchy of puppets controlled by a deceptive Korean man named EE Chang Woo. EE Chang Woo manipulated every single member through a network of deceptive and dishonest ubfKoreans. EE Chang Woo made himself, his family, and a few select followers (like Mark Yoon and Bam Toh among others) very wealthy off the ubf. But since EE Chang Woo died in a horrible fire in his own house, the remaining ubf leaders are confused. They have nobody to tell them every day how to manipulate and abuse and fleece the followers. They are so confused that they may be spending less time manipulating than in the past.

Also, they have found out that their efforts in the USA for the last 30 years have been a giant failure, and that so many people despise the ubf now. Most of the ubf leaders' own children want nothing to do with the ubf, or even their own father, like Paul Hong's daughter and Dr. Joseph Chung's children, among others. So they appear to be a little humble because they are getting a major league beat-down in bad publicity, such as the newspaper articles that talk about ubf as a cult, and ubf getting expelled from the National Association of Evangelicals with no chance of re-admittance. The ubf leaders actually deserve real, lasting punishment. A beat-down is too soft for them.

Sarah,

I mentioned some specifics and a number of ubf leaders. I believe only this much has changed about ubf. Would you or your leaders care to make a dialogue with me or anyone else here? By the way, who are you, where are you, etc?

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Re: The Changing UBF -- Tony Lang, 07:49:58 02/14/05 Mon