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Date Posted: 16:59:57 03/04/05 Fri
Author: Chris
Subject: To "christian-movie-fan"

To the anonmyous poster who used the name "christian-movie-fan":

Your posting has been deleted by the forum admin because you used an anonymizer (see note 10/20/04 at the top of the main index) and you were obviously throwing a red herring.

By giving the movie "A Beautiful Mind" about John Nash as an example, you wanted to propagate the UBFish idea that ratio is something bad because it can never be trusted. Yes, in UBF rational thinking is considered bad. Feelings are considered bad as well. In UBF, you cannot trust anything except UBF and what UBF leaders say. This is a cult mindset. The same idea has also been propagated in the blind UBF message discussed here.

When I first started to have doubts about UBF, my chapter leader tried the same with me, he wanted to "reeducate" my and started to to talk at me that I should not believe or trust in my own reasoning or anything else and that I needed to question everything I knew and so on. It was actually a brainwashing session.

In reality, the movie teaches a completely different lesson than you want to imply. John Nash actually did cope rationally with his illness and was able to see through what was illusion and what not and how to discern it.

Both ratio (reason, sanity) and feelings are God-given gifts that we are to use. Yes, there are things which go beyond ratio and feelings, but God expects us to think reasonably and rationally, and to listen to our feelings which can often warn us and make our ratio aware of something that may be wrong.

There is an objective truth. Either there have been forced abortions or not. Either Peter Chang in Bonn has four houses or not. In the movie, the psychatrist said: "There is only one way to help you, namely to confront you with the reality." As soon as John Nash was confronted with reality and started to think about what was real and not, it became better. So it is with you when you are in UBF. Make the reality check.

The forum rules do not allow posting using an anonymizer. Nor do we want to discuss with an anonymous phantom, just like John Nash in the movie refused to talk with his unreal friends. If you want to have a real discussion, you need to become real at first. Come out of your UBF illusion and your paranoia that forces you to use an anonymizer. We are not the evil Russians who were after John Nash.

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