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Date Posted: 17:53:20 12/19/04 Sun
Author: Anonymous
Subject: Vucekovich comment highlights baseness of UBF "training"

I thought it would be useful to publicize a particular comment that I heard Mark Vucekovich make a few years ago. It serves to highlight the completely base nature of what UBF calls "training."

I was part of the American "mission journey" team to another country. During the journey, "Colonel" Helen Rarick presented Mark Vucekovich with a gift in recognition of his assistance to the journey team. The gift was a leather belt. Vucekovich then made a half-joking comment, "I can use this for my message training."

I do not know how much corporal punishment is used in UBF today. I never witnessed it in my chapter. I don't know if Vuceckovich has ever used corporal punishment to "train" people. But I'm sure of one thing. If Vuce had been a member of any reputable church and made such a comment, severe action would be taken against him immediately. But UBF makes this person chapter director and puts him on the international advisory board!

Regardless of the issue of corporal punishment, I think Vuce's comment shows what UBF "training" really is. UBF "training" is the application of a system of reward and punishment. The "shepherd" applies this system to the "sheep" until the "sheep" produces the desired behavior. Basically, UBF treats its members as if they were animals. This is the way all UBF training - testimonies, messages, conferences, dramas - works. How utterly base, demeaning and useless!

To those of you who are in UBF or are considering making a commitment to UBF - don't be part of an organization that wants to train you like a lab rat. There are plenty of respectable Christian organizations out there that will treat you not only as a human being, but also with love, nurturing and concern. Avoid UBF at all costs.

Regards,
Anonymous ex-UBFer

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Vucekovich is an abusive person -- Nick T., 10:12:50 12/20/04 Mon