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Date Posted: 21:44:07 01/07/05 Fri
Author: friend
Subject: Re: Love of God vs. Judgement of God
In reply to: Caitlin 's message, "Love of God vs. Judgement of God" on 09:22:16 01/06/05 Thu

John 8:1-11 helped me.

>I have another issue that really bothers me. When I
>came to ubf I was a messed up sinner. I knew my life
>was a mess and I was dirty. However, I didn't really
>know deep in my heart God's love. UBF started me in
>Genesis with all sorts of condemnation for unbelief,
>for family conflicts, for sexual immorality. However,
>they didn't introduce me to God's love-that He loved
>me very much He died for me. They didn't show me the
>love of God either. They mocked, made fun and shunned
>me. I changed out of fear of man and perhaps terror
>of God, rather than love of God. However, I became
>bitter and felt controlled and condemned and was very
>depressed.
>
>When I left ubf I was alone and got into trouble and
>became afraid and acted immoral out of my fear. Now,
>I believe I truly have faith in God's love and truly
>have repented. However, when I hear of other people
>in sin like I used to be, I hesitate before telling
>them the gospel. I know Jesus loves them, but I
>struggle with feeling that I'm condemning them if I
>tell them the gospel. The Bible does say in the
>gospel of John that whoever doesn't believe is
>condemned but it seems scary to me. I struggle with
>feeling I'm trying to control them so I don't say
>anything even though according to the Bible we are to
>preach the gospel and baptize them in the name of the
>Father, Son and Holy Spirit.
>
>I think I really struggle with God's love-what is it,
>what does it mean. I don't think it's just a feeling
>and I don't think it's words. I think it's action. I
>also think it's very, very patient. In 1 Cor 13, the
>first verse on love says "Love is patient". The first
>fruit of the Spirit is long-suffering.
>
>I don't want to tell people in sin the gospel until I
>show them a lot of love and care and concern. Then I
>feel there will be an opening for the gospel and then
>once I preach it, to not control them but pray for
>them and gently lead them to sanctification of known
>sin.
>
>I think ubf was mean, cruel and rough and it led to
>bitterness and rebellion in me. It hurt me a lot and
>ultimately didn't change my heart-though outwardly I
>did change, my heart seemed to become more bitter and
>more afraid than I was when I came into ubf.

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