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Date Posted: 19:17:58 01/17/05 Mon
Author: Chris
Subject: Re: Need some serious advice
In reply to: Robert 's message, "Need some serious advice" on 17:32:07 01/17/05 Mon

Probably Sam Zun is in desperate search of new members. I also have been kicked out and then reinvited again, both times without being given any reason.

Usually those who left UBF (on their own, not kicked out) and then joined again became even worse, and even more bound to UBF than usual members, because they believe if they show "unthankfulness" in their "2nd" chance, they will be ultimately condemned. UBF is always searching for "guilt grips" to get hold of people. This grip is very strong in "2time joiners." It is also a kind of "prodigal son" effect. I would recommend to simply stay away from UBF and search for a healthy evangelical church. Some of these prodigal son members exist in UBF Bonn. Of of them is now so loyal to Peter Chang that he even wanted to change his last name to "Chang" to demonstrate he is his "child". I also know that effect from Korean missionaries. The "2timer joiners" among these Koreans were the most irrational and loyal UBF members.

UBF is not only about guilt tripping and shunning people, it is also about flattering, praising and love bombing people. It is this regularly but arbitrarily alternating treatment that is so abusive and dangerous about UBF. Now you are sucked in and then when they have a grip on you, they will abuse you again. They will indoctrinate you until you believe that you have been such an evil and unthankful person, and UBF was so merciful to you to accept you a 2nd time, and need to be eternally thankful now. Once you will have swallowed that indoctrination, the other side of UBF will appear again, and their will be pushing, guilt tripping and abuse again. You have experienced it one time, don't let them do it another time. Also, joining UBF would mean to indirectly support a potentially abusive system based on wrong, unbiblical doctrines.

So, please seek for REAL Christian friends, though they may be harded to find than UBFins who present themselves to you as your real friends for free, but later you will have to pay back everything very expensively.

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Re: Need some serious advice -- Anonymous, 19:19:44 01/17/05 Mon