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Date Posted: 00:10:32 01/18/05 Tue
Author: Joe
Subject: Re: Need some serious advice
In reply to: Robert 's message, "Re: Need some serious advice" on 21:43:59 01/17/05 Mon

>Thanks for your input everyone maybe staying away is
>simply the best thing but two things kind of concern
>me though. 1. What about other members of UBF? If I
>completely stay away than what will happen to some of
>the younger/newer members of UBF? I don't want to see
>them suffer in the long run because I decided to just
>simply duck and run, even if it is the smart thing to
>do.

What will keep Zun from just kicking you out again if you try to be a "voice of reason" and object to the spiritual abuses of younger/newer members? Trying to change things or "reform from within" simply doesn't work in UBF. It's been tried, and it doesn't work because people like Zun don't allow it.

>2. I guess I still want answers, because I'm
>still hurt over what happpened, and if I stay away the
>pain is just going to keep gnawing at me, however I
>might never get an answer either.
>Also to answer Joe
>Chung's question. Sam Zun said after the service to
>everyone that "I told Robert he could leave UBF, but
>now he comes back by faith." So no I never was giving
>an option to leave, I was told I was out of UBF, and
>two I didn't go back by "faith" I just simply want
>answers.

I think you already have Zun's, and therefore, UBF's answers. You did something worthy of expulsion, and he generously gave you the option to stay or leave. That's his patently false version of the story, and he's going to stick to it and waive it in your face whether you stay or leave. Who can stay in a church led by such a twister of the truth? Maybe, to get some closure you ought to write a letter to Zun and your former teacher asking for an official written explanation for your expulsion.

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Re: Need some serious advice -- Mike K., 07:19:15 01/18/05 Tue