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Date Posted: 10:26:48 09/08/04 Wed
Author: Nick T.
Subject: ubf was a member in bad standing

The ubf was not a member in good standing with the NAE. The only ubf that actually registered with the NAE was the DePaul ubf in Chicago. No other ubf chapters were considered part of the NAE. This chapter is led by a long time ubf failure Mark Vucekovich. He has recruited exactly one person to ubf in the last 24 years. His chapter has been a perrenial failure. Please also note that this ubf chapter is banned from even setting foot on the DePaul campus. Also note that DePaul U. hired a legitmate Presbyterian youth pastor to serve the non-Catholic students, in order to make sure students have no reason to even look at ubf as a student ministry. And it has worked very well. Have you seen any DePaul shepherds giving any conference messages? Vucekovich has been pionering there for more than 15 years.

The reason that only the one tiny chapter near DePaul registered with NAE is they could claim they are a very small group, which is true, and pay a very minimal annual fee of like $50. Do you know how much legitimacy ubf tried to squeeze out of that $50 per year? The ubf all over the world has claimed to be NAE, like an endorsement, tho only DePaul was signed up. ubf has no other claim to being a legitimate group besides their 'affiliation' with NAE.

ubf was not a member in good standing as Brain Karcher writes. ubf was a rogue cult group that tried to rent legitimacy. ubf was a pretend member in shameful standing. When ubf was rightly exposed as a cult, the NAE was alarmed and immediately addressed the problem by confronting ubf. ubf chose not to respond, though they had every chance for six months or more. ubf knew they were going to be expelled, and did not bother to respond.

In the book of Acts, the apostles always responded when confronted. Jesus also responded except for one time before his crucifixion. ubf in no way can be likened to Jesus or his apostles. IMHO, ubf leaders are very similar to religious leaders of Jesus' time. And if Brain Karcher spoke to Kyle Fisk personally, why didn't Kyle change his mind? Or why didn't Brain fly out to Colorado and speak personally to the whole board of directors at NAE?

Brain, you are purposely telling lies, real big lies. Repent. In the meantime, we will tell the truth about you and your friends. You can thank us later.

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