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Date Posted: 12:19:24 11/08/04 Mon
Author: Brother in Christ
Subject: Re: John 5 - "Pick up your mat and walk"
In reply to: Joe 's message, "Re: John 5 - "Pick up your mat and walk"" on 10:09:03 11/08/04 Mon

>As is rel=nofollow target=_blank >href=http://voy.com/60734/8877.html>typical, UBF
>turns the passage upside down so that the focus is
>squarely on you to pick up your mat and walk,
>on you "doing something for God." At every
>opportunity, UBF will interpret scripture to enforce
>its rel=nofollow target=_blank >href=http://drchungj.blogspot.com/2004/08/john-engler-r
>esignation-letter.html>performance-oriented
>theology; that's UBF in a nutshell.
>
>See rel=nofollow target=_blank >href=http://www.pbc.org/dp/stedman/john/3842.html>http:
>//www.pbc.org/dp/stedman/john/3842.html for an
>alternative.
>
>
>>Now, when UBF "studies" this passage, the thrust is
>>"what is your mat?" Typical answers are "humanism,"
>>"materialism," "calculating mind," "no thanksgiving
>>mind," "pleasure-seeking desire," etc. It may force
>>the "sheep" to confess their deepest darkest secrets
>>to their "shepherds." Or if they don't have any deep
>>dark secrets, they are forced to invent one. Then
>>comes about the usual guilt-tripping, and feeling that
>>one must repent by being more "spiritual" - "feeding"
>>more "sheep," engaging in "early morning prayer," etc.

Mike and Joe,

Thanks Guys!! It is nice to have someone around who knows the Bible. Your explanations are pretty much what i thought the passage to mean. The first clue i had that UBF was totally off base on this one was when i read a couple commentaries and the mat was not even mentioned! The total focus of the UBF message was not even mentioned as a main point in so many commentaries, go figure. Thanks again guys.

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Wrong focus -- Mike K., 12:28:12 11/08/04 Mon