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Subject: Re: reply to mrs. ladybird Author: mark 44 [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: Wednesday, October 10, 2018, 02:54: am In reply to: mark 44 's message, "Re: reply to mrs. ladybird" on Monday, October 08, 2018, 06:34: pm My cousin, who lives in a different state than I do, told me that the school offered free physicals to students when he was in the sixth grade. The doctor who performed the exams was a young female who had just started at a local clinic. He also said it was a complete exam, genitals and all, including retracting the foreskin. He said his teacher was there for all of it, including the genital exam. He said she had what must have been a file for each child in the class and she put the paper work from the physical in his file. He also told me that he had a full erection during the exam and the doctor and the teacher never said anything about it. I know he had started puberty and had pubic hair and he had more than a little boy sized penis. He said most of the boys admitted to having erections during the physical and were all embarrassed about it. He said it was most embarrassing having it done in front of his teacher. He said he got red faced every time she called on him during class. He said he was glad to get out of her class when the school year ended. This happened many years ago, so I don't know if that still goes on. A nurse would have been more appropriate and would have been welcomed by the students, he said. I don't know if she was there because a chaperone was required or just for convenience of the paper work. Anyway I thought it was an interesting experience and thought I would share it. [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: reply to mrs. ladybird Author: Calvin [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Saturday, October 20, 2018, 01:14: am I too had to endure the dreaded physical inspection each year before the start of school. The inspections started a few days before school started and your parent had to call and make an appointment for the inspection. the exams were done in the school gymnasium . There were two exam rooms, made by using the folding curtains you see in hospitals. There appeared to be just one doctor and she was the same one each year. She moved from one examining area to the other and did the exams. It was the same from the first grade through high school. I remember the first and second grades my mom went with me but I must have been grown up enough after that I went by myself.Mom asked if I wanted her to go and I said no,because having her being there looking at me standing naked only embarrassed me more. There was a nurse and what turned out to be your teacher in each of the enclosures. The nurses were girls from the senior class at our local high school who were taking vocational classes for nursing school. They were used instead of regular nurses for the students from first through eighth grade. That changed after the first couple of years because the boys mostly in the eighth grade were uncomfortable being nude in front of girls who they not only knew but were only three or four years older. They discontinued using these student nurses on the seventh and eighth grade boys. The exam was basically the same every year. You went into the exam room and was told to remove all of your clothes and then you were measured for height and weighed, your temp was taken and your blood pressure was taken twice. All this information was relayed from the nurse to the teacher who wrote it down on a form of some sort. Then you had a seat on the examining table and the doctor came in and did her inspection. It was fairly quick but very precise. It included every thing including a full genital inspection. This was watched closely by the nurse and the teacher. All of the teachers were female and it didn't make much of a difference in the lower grades but from the fifth or sixth grades it was kind of embarrassing to have to stand there with nothing on and have the three females looking at you from top to bottom.(no pun intended) Some of us were entering puberty and we were afraid of an erection, which was pretty common among most of us. My erection started when I was told to remove my clothes and lasted until I was dressed and out of the little room. Nothing was ever said about it, and the full inspection of retracting the foreskin was done and my testicles were palpitated even though I was as hard as I could get. These inspections went on through high school with the exception of the ninth grade where we had a home room teacher who attended these physical inspections. That was really embarrassing knowing I was going to have to go through this personal display with some one who would be teaching me for three classes and had seen my erection and foreskin being retracted and my glans moved around for her to see. As I remember she moved in for a really close look when that was done,even though she was not far away after I removed my clothes. The last three years of high school only a doctor and a nurse were present. I think it was preparing us from the first grade on to except this invasion of our personal privacy and not complain. I do know I had no shyness about showing myself to any girl who wanted to see and there were many who hinted or asked when we were playing around at one of the swimming holes we went to in the summer. By the way, our physicals were payed for by the state and only cost a dollar. If you said you couldn't pay it was free. Many kids has an extra dollar to spend because no one ever questioned you. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: reply to mrs. ladybird Author: mrs_ladybird [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Sunday, October 21, 2018, 05:31: am I had similar experience in the grades, probably in the 4th grade. A huge medical wagon was set up in the courtyard of our school, which was fully equipped to conduct medical examinations. For a few days, all pupils in grades 1 through 8 had to undergo a mandatory medical examination. The examinations were conducted by a 2 visiting female doctors with the assistance of our school nurse. The exam was conducted separately for the boys and girls. Near the entrance of the wagon there was a small dressing room, where the pupils were undressing to underwear. They were accompanied one by one to the medical room by the class teacher along with their medical records. All the teachers in our school at that time were female except for the director and the physical education teacher. The procedure included a check of vision, ears, nose and throat, measurement of lung volume, blood pressure and heart rhythm. A check of the spine and posture, followed by a visual inspection of the sexual organs for which the underware lowered to the knees. The whole procedure is done in attendance and in front of the class teacher and nurse. I guess the class teacher has been watching the exams of the boys the same way, because she stayed in the wagon when their order came. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: reply to mrs. ladybird Author: Calvin [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Monday, October 22, 2018, 04:53: am To Mrs. Ladybird A question. Did it make you feel more comfortable with your teacher watching the examination? Would have you been more comfortable with a person you would never see again doing what the teacher was doing? Being a girl and having a female teacher there, would be different than a boy and his female teacher attending the exam,but were you really glad she was there? How would you have felt if your teacher had been male and was watching if you had a complete exam? I'm really curious. I hope you reply soon. Thank you if you do. Also, doesn't any more females have physical exam experiences that they would share, or comments on the subject? Be interested to read them. thanks again. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: reply to mrs. ladybird Author: mrs_ladibird [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Sunday, October 28, 2018, 09:30: am I'm not sure if the inconvenience would have been less if the attendant during the intimate examination was unknown. The class teacher at that time enjoyed exceptional authority and respect and her decisions were not susceptible to confrontation. The presence of a male teacher in the room during the examinations was a practically impossible option, so I do not even think about commenting it even theoretically. I suppose that for boys the presence of a female teacher was much more uncomfortable and much more embarrassing and shameful, but their opinion was the last thing that could have changed something in the established long-standing practice [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: reply to mrs. ladybird Author: Calvin [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Wednesday, October 31, 2018, 03:50: am To Mrs. Ladybird, Thank you for your thoughtful reply, and thank you for bringing up the fact that teachers had complete control and obedience from each student. I think it all comes back to young males to accustom them to being examined and looked at and touched while being naked. Accepting a female teacher observing a nude examination of a young boy would be the normal thing, not to be questioned. However, I think most if not all of them would rather had the male gym teacher in attendance given the chose. They would be used to being around him when they were showering and getting dressed. Also I don't think he would have shown as much interest in the exam of the boys genitals as the female teachers reportedly did. Thanks again for your reply, as I enjoy being made aware of something I had totally forgotten, the complete authority of the grade school teacher. They could do almost any thing and not be questioned. how right you were. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: reply to mrs. ladybird Author: Doug [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Sunday, December 09, 2018, 11:33: pm The school nurse enjoyed the same absolute authority that the teachers had. That is why they were able to perform violence on a boys penis if he had an erection during an examination. I think most of the boys were of mind set, afraid my Mom would find out and punish me for being 'nasty' or something. Too soon we get old, to late we get smart. Actually , that long ago, (1950's), that might have been accepted by school authorities as correct procedure. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: nude exam in front of teacher Author: Ben [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Friday, December 14, 2018, 05:52: pm Calvin, there were no gym teachers in grade school, male or female, and most teachers were female up to 5th or 6th grade. So it was not an option. I remember we had an exam in 5th grade when we were chaperoned by our class teacher. Each class was accampanied and chaperoned by their class teacher for the exam. When our turn came our teacher, who was about 32, took us down to the exam room which was two empty classes next to each other. One class was where we were ordered to strip in just underpants. The other class was set up as the exam room. We were taken in one by one into the exam room by our teacher where we were told to give her our underpants for the exam to be done, including genital check. It was embarrassing having to stand completely naked with everything on display during the whole exam in front of our female teacher who watched during the whole exam. When one boy was finished she gave him back his underpants to put on, took him back to the changing class and brought in the next boy. As other posters have said there was no questioning a teacher's authority in those days and you had to do what they told you, especially since they had the authority in those days to spank you when necessary. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: reply to Ben Author: Calvin [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Friday, December 21, 2018, 06:36: pm The school I attended is in Oregon and we had P.E. starting in the fourth grade. The school was a separate complex from any other school and had its own cafeteria and gymnasium. The gym had a basketball court with an elevated stage behind the basket at one end of the gym. We had P.E. two days out of the week. We had boys and girls showers and dressing areas, with lockable baskets for each students to leave their gym clothes in when they weren't being used. The gym teacher was from the local junior high school which included the seventh and eighth grades. Only one gym teacher showed up for our P.E. classes which was co-ed. Most of the time it was a male P.E. teacher but sometimes a female P.E. teacher showed up. We had only female teachers at our school and when the male P.E. teacher was there a female teacher there also. When the female P.E. teacher was there, she had complete run of the boys shower and dressing room. She handed out towels and hurried us up, and made sure we put our towels in the dirty towel basket. I assume the female teacher did the same thing in the girls shower and dressing room. I don't remember any big fuss being raised about her being in our dressing room. Some of us were embarrassed enough to cover our genitals when we came to her for a towel, but after a few times I felt kind of silly covering my self. She never paid any attention to us, we may as well have been getting our towels from a machine. I remember in the sixth grade a female P.E. teacher was there almost exclusively. The P.E. teachers were never from our school, so we never had to face them after they had seen us naked and getting dressed. Anyway, we had P.E. when we were in the fourth, fifthand sixth grades, even if you didn't. e. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: reply to Ben Author: jean the frenchie [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Friday, February 25, 2022, 06:11: am The relation by "calvin" of his mandatory school physical examination through all grades was interesting. I notice that even in 9th grade, so about 14-15 age, the set up was the same than in small grades with full nudity and a woman teacher who attended to all the exam aside a female nurse and a female doctor, so that the boys were naked in front of three women and for all the duration of the exam.It could happen that a boy was aroused as soon as he undressed in the nude and stayed erected until the end of the examination. I am not very surprised because I think that several years ago there was not much concern for the modesty of boys at school physical examinations. Of course it was difficult for a boy to go to lessons at a school with a woman teacher who had seen him in the nude, his penis examined, his foreskin retracted and his glans moved around and his balls palpated and so on since he had been butt naked all the time of the exam. And in small grades, even until last grade of middle school, the 8th grade with boys of about 14 age, it was still more embarrassing because the nurses were senior high school girls who were in vocational classes for nursing school,and there was regular nurses only for the exam of high school boys, these older boys could be lucky because the school could have not taken in account their age and left the senior high school girls continue to do the job of nurses at their examinations with the sight of boys in the nude. It changed only after the first couple of years because of the embarrassment of the boys in 8th grade so that later in 7th grade and 8th grade, the school did not use student nurses but that was before a practice which had certainly lasted for many years. It might be more embarrassing than to have a woman teacher in the room of exam. And like the boys were told to remove all their clothes immediately,even for weigh-in and check of height or blood pressure, they were naked for a rather long time leaving time to senior girls or female teachers to watch them in the nude from feet to bottom and top face and back, genitals and balls and butt exposed. I try to imagine a boy of 13 age being naked with an erection undrer the sight of a senior girl student and a female teacher.It might have been very embarrassing ! I have read other relations where senior or junior girls volonteers were attending the exam of boys students even sometimes same age to take notes on comments from a school nurse or a school doctor. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]