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Subject: Re: I was a holder


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Date Posted: Tuesday, July 09, 2024, 06:54: am
In reply to: Shelly 's message, "Re: I was a holder" on Tuesday, July 09, 2024, 06:43: am

Shelly,
Yes, i am sure your brother was just like me. I hated mom’s enemas. I hated being forced onto the toilet and doing something I did not want to do.

I have been reflecting on your initial enema with your son. I think the lock and loaded knee you plan to use on him and the “awe and shock” method of him not knowing what to expect plus you having total control over him as he is clamped in as Krissi says over you knee is going to give him a nice cleaning out as I am sure he will be hysterical through the whole process.
When do you expect to start?

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Date Posted: Tuesday, July 09, 2024, 07:21: am

Shelly,
I guess I should ask you how are you feeling about giving an enema to your son? I know you posted you always wished that was you going into those rooms to give that enema. Well, you’re a parent now and have decided 6 years old will be the starting age and one of your boys has arrived at that age. Do you have butterflies in your stomach knowing that day will soon be here? Do you have what is called the “enema itch” and you are about to scratch it by giving your son his enema? Have you started playing in your mind how you plan to do it, what day of the week, how you will respond as your son responds reaching back or kicking as he is clamped in? Do you plan to let him know that this will be his life as he receives weekly enemas? Do you plan to allow him to use the toilet or have a potty chair for him to sit on as you watch him fight that inner battle of that enema and you walk out victorious as he walks out defeated?
There is a lot to think about and it will soon become all reality. I am sure like myself, he will be ready to take a nap afterwards.
It may be better like mom with me latter in life and you start now while he is young, giving his enemas after his evening bath while he is already in the bathroom and already nude, no fighting there, just placing him in the lock and loaded position would be all that is left.

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Date Posted: Saturday, July 13, 2024, 06:18: pm

Hi AV,

So I'm super nervous about giving him his first enema. I'll give him his first enema just a couple of days before school starts this fall. I think starting my boys young like Krissi does instead of when I was introduced to enemas when I was almost a teenager and having periods and understood a little about male female sexual activity and how it messed with my mind. I don't want them to always associate an enema with being humiliated and forced to poop for someone but a healthy way of taking care of your colon. Oddly, but just like Krissi, I'd rather be giving enemas to females because that is what enemas always meant to me. A female forcing me on the toilet to poop for her. I would sit on the toilet chair with my enema in me going over and over again in my head that she inserts the nozzle in me and then stands there putting my enema in me and her talking to me during my enema, coaching me, having me turn so she can get all of it up in me. I would relive every second of the enema she just gave me while I'm sitting there trying to get it back out. I had so much fun giving my roommate enemas. For a year and a half I got to give her enemas. She gave me some too but she got so she liked her enema as part of our foreplay. It's not like we were two rabbits screwing every other night, maybe twice a month or a little more but once I got that first enema in her we became sexual and it was so hot for me.

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Date Posted: Saturday, July 13, 2024, 08:11: pm

Hey Shelly,
So glad to see your post. Wow! I am sure you are nervous. But it is good you plan to teach him the health benefits. I hope he does well for you.

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Date Posted: Sunday, July 14, 2024, 06:13: am

Shelly,
I hope you come and journal your experiences with your son. Krissi looked at writing as a form of therapy for her. It helped. I also look at writing about my experiences, emotions, feelings because you never know how it may be helping someone. I know you mentioned Krissi’s writings helped you. They helped me as well. I enjoyed reading and even being there for any form of emotional support. So please think about sharing your experiences with your son and sons, you never know who is a silent reader. Take care.

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Date Posted: Saturday, July 20, 2024, 09:15: pm

Hey AV,

Krissi was so much help to me. And I never got to thank her. I thought that I was a freak because I grew up liking or craving something that as a child I dreaded so much. I didn't understand why I wanted to go back in time and relive that very first enema step mom gave me. It was so traumatic and awful and degrading, and yet I want to go back and get it again. I rarely ever do an enema because I just can't get that same thrill out of it unless I have to submit to someone. Hubby would be no help. Getting an enema from a male does nothing for me. Enemas for my boys will quickly just become another of those tasks that moms have to do to take care of their kids. I had an awful experience of being broken from holding in my poop at that young age they are approaching and I'm going to make sure they don't get any ideas about holding. The first time I catch one of them standing stiff with legs crossed and face turning red it's off to the bathroom for an enema. And a little talk about I recognized what he was just doing and it won't be tolerated. So far neither of them has ever acted like they are holding back. Quite the opposite, they tend to both be a little constipated. The older one has had over a dozen suppositories in his short life. The youngest, about five or six. His last one was almost a year ago.

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Date Posted: Sunday, July 21, 2024, 04:04: am

Hey Shelly,
I was exited to see a post from you. Yes, Krissi helped me as well. And honestly I believe I helped her in return. Just being there and sorta like a pen pal writing and commenting on her post asking questions or leaving a thought. She told me once she was a silent reader of my post. She told me she could relate so well to me because I was held by my brothers and she was held by her mom and sometimes her brother. I hope you decide to journal your journey with your boys to help you. As for as reaction, how are your boys reacting to the suppositories when given? Moving from a suppository to an enema will be easy. Your boy will expect a suppository but will get a surprise.
Don’t just look at giving your boys an enema as another task but also as healinh for you. You plan to give your boys a wonderful experience you didn’t get as a child and hopefully though time your boys learn the benefits and enjoyment of an enema.
As you know from reading my posts, I look at writing about my enema childhood as therapy for me. My mom sent me to the bathroom as well if I was caught holding and she prepared an enema. As I got older, she gave the enemas after the evening bath to basically help since I was already in the bathroom and nude. Over the knee was all that was left with that bulb up my bottom.
Hope all goes well.

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Date Posted: Saturday, July 27, 2024, 08:04: am

Hey AV,

Well they don't particularly like suppositories. They both will ask to let them go try and poop. I do, but ultimately they can't and they get the suppository. They say the suppositories hurt their insides. Of course when you are constipated and you force peristalsis with a stimulant you are going to get cramps and they don't like that. Wait until they feel their insides cramping from an enema working it's way up their colon. They aren't going to like that either. They hate being made to brush their teeth every morning. You would think it was torture. It's a male thing isn't it? Being bossed around by a female. Wait until the bossy female puts them on the toilet every weekend for a forced poop. Little boys in our society learn very early by all the exposure they get through tv and just life experiences that the male is the boss and the female is their subordinate. Well they are going to submit to a bossy female all their childhood. I'm sounding like Krissi I know. I miss you Krissi.

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Date Posted: Saturday, July 27, 2024, 08:28: am

Shelly,

Krissi, is that really you? Are you playing games with me? lol.

Well, with what you have said about how they respond to the suppository and teeth brushing, I’ll expect to read about fussing. But you’ve been trained by the best, Krissi prepared you for your moment and this time. Look at it as continuing the legacy. Hopefully through time, Krissi will make an appearance. Your son coming up will be in a shock. Suppository is pushed in and it’s over, but with an enema it’s all that warm water that has to go in.
Do you plan to use plain water or add some mild soap. I remember Krissi’s sister used plain water but Krissi used goat milk soap to coat the intestines but had to give 2 rinse enemas. You will discover what works best for you and your boys to get that result you want. They don’t know this is just the beginning of a long childhood journey. Great hearing from you. Can’t wait to read how things go.

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Date Posted: Saturday, July 27, 2024, 09:38: am

Hey AV,

I keep hoping if I mention her that she will join us. I wonder how her family's kids are doing with their enemas. No, I have never given a child an enema yet and I'm super nervous. I got such a thrill when I made my roommate accept an enema from me and then giving her more of them for over a year but giving my boys enemas gives me shivers. Just not knowing how I'm going to react to how they react. I have just the generic Walgreen's enema\douche\hot water bottle red bag. It only holds about a quart and a half but I learned a trick to get it super full and under pressure so the enema starts hard and fast. You fill it as full as you can. Hold it up and open clamp and prime the tube, expelling all the air. Then lay the bag on the floor and hold the nozzle in a bowl of water, open the clamp and WOW!, it will siphon and put at least another half quart in the bag and pressurize it so when you have the nozzle in the butt and open the clamp there is a lot of quick water pressure filling your rectum and rushing up the beginnings of your colon. You can control the amount of that first gush by having the bag below the level of your butt. According to what I've read a six year old's colon if empty could easily take two quarts so that is the plan. No soap. One enema.


Caveat, when you pressurize the cheapo Walgreen red bags you will eventually spring a leak around the black plastic where the tube connector is screwed in and it's off to Walgreen's again.

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Date Posted: Saturday, July 27, 2024, 09:58: am

Hey AV,


I do have a story for you. Although not nearly as good as Krissi's stories. I had to go to Walgreen's for a new cheapo bag about a year ago. Had both my boys in tow. I needed pull-ups for the four year old because he still would occasionally wet the bed and diapers for the youngest. That's all I had a check out. There was a barely old enough to legally work check out girl trying to get a granny checked out with all her coupons and questions about sale prices on the items she had. There were two teen or tween girls and there mom behind us. I had the enema box prominently displayed on the counter for all to see. I was able to catch a look at the girls looking at my enema bag box. Gave me a thrill. Wanted so bad to follow those girls home and use the enema bag on them. They for sure figured my boys were in for an enema when we got home.

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