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Subject: Re: I was a holder Author: AV [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: Monday, July 29, 2024, 11:44: pm In reply to: Shelly 's message, "Re: I was a holder" on Monday, July 29, 2024, 10:04: pm Shelly, Referring back to Krissi real quick. I haven’t seen or found her on any sites. Doesn’t mean she isn’t. I hope she is still journaling somewhere for her sake because I remember her writing how much it helped her release your feelings and thoughts. She would be ecstatic to read about your journey and how her writings helped you come forth. If she is still out there writing, she will eventually be found. I know she would be encouraging you. Hope you plan to journal to share any tension or feedback or emotions. We never know who is a silent reader being encouraged by what we write. [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> [> Subject: Re: I was a holder Author: Bonnie's Kid [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Tuesday, July 30, 2024, 01:29: pm It's been interesting reading here, and over on Female Enemas, about other's experiences when enemas, suppositories, and rectal temps were involved. Shelly, Krissi, Carol A, Nancy, Joan, Sue, Barb, and others, have shared their methods and thoughts regarding this old fashioned procedure which I find to be a very valid treatment here in the 21st century. As I've perused the various forums here on Voy, Zity Biz, E4TM, Fetlife, Empowered Sustenance, Kitchen Kop, Glowfins, Quora, and others, I have learned a great deal about the history and pros and cons relative to the uses of these modalities. While I despised enemas, RT's, and suppositories as a youngster, especially when mom and grandma were the primary providers, I learned quite early to self-administer to avoid most of the negative interactions we had at home. They still gave me enemas as they saw necessary, but I was beginning to realize the positive aspects. My eventual enjoyment of the simple procedure and pleasures, has carried on for a lifetime. When I came to realize that I wasn't all that weird, strange, or perverted, I found some rest, relaxation, confidence, in addressing my own health and comfort issues. I also realized mom, grandma, and other users of these methods, weren't so strange or outlandish. I have appreciated the input of others who also find a positive and effective side of these old fashioned procedures. Those who advocate for coffee enemas as an aspect of a valid health concern, have introduced me to a very positive modality. When it comes to enemas for the youngsters, my only suggestions are to make the process as positive and effective as possible, without it devolving into a very negative or punitive procedure. I always believed I was being punished for some failure or omission when mom, grandma, or the pediatrician threatened me with enemas, suppositories, or laxatives. As an aside, sometimes I do enjoy some roleplay that takes me back to those times, when we used to play doctor or nurse as kids. We mimicked what we experienced. It's far more enjoyable as adult roleplay, so perhaps I do have some unique perspectives, but that doesn't diminish what I believe are very effective, efficient, procedures to deal with many maladies, either physical or psychological. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: Re: I was a holder Author: AV [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Tuesday, July 30, 2024, 04:11: pm Bonnie’s Kid, I agree on making the enema a positive process. I hope Shelly will continue to journal as this process continues with her kids and who knows there might be a silent reader that may be a parent as well and looking into giving her children enemas and Shelly may have a part in that through her writing. I have examined the other sites and posted on some but I am mostly a silent reader myself when I visit sites unless the topic is one I can really relate. I decided though to make this forum my go to forum to journal and be able to share with others like yourself. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: I was a holder Author: Shelly [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Sunday, August 04, 2024, 08:27: pm Hey, I do appreciate that there is this board for us to discuss our childhood experiences with things rectal done to us growing up. I was so afraid growing up that my friends would find out that our stepmom gave us enemas. I think now that it is likely that some of the kids I went to school with had bedwetting or holding or digestive issues that were treated rectally. And I wish I knew then and even more now, who among them were treated that way. My only inkling was when mom had me at the Drs. and as he has his finger up my butt and pushing against my tummy telling mom he sees many kids every month that are full of stool. It just didn't register when I started getting enemas years later that a lot of kids I knew had toileting issues and where getting some sort of intervention. I felt alone on an island with the enema queen. I know in my heart she was in to enemas for our health. I didn't buy it at the time. But she was. And I am now a product of those beliefs. Ask any Dr. and they will tell you that we humans aren't pooping often enough. AV I'm just going to give my 6 year old enemas. The younger will have a couple of years to process what he will face when it is his turn. I'm so nervous about starting the enemas. They fight fight fight about everything. The oldest is sensitive and shy and the younger is aggressive. I suspect the younger will use his brother having to have enemas against him to torture and ridicule him. There isn't much I can do about it. I just don't feel the time is right to start him on enemas too. That would mean his brother got to have two years without weekly enemas and he didn't. I know, silly, but still, not fair. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: I was a holder Author: AV [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Sunday, August 04, 2024, 09:30: pm Hey Shelly, You going to make me cry. I hope you do your best in helping your oldest with taking the enemas. I hope the younger one doesn’t torture and ridicule him. How do you feel about giving the younger one a suppository if he does? Like you said he will have 2 years to process what he will face. Become more of a hugger for that older one and let him know you are proud of him when he takes his enema. Do what you can to encourage. This is why krissi called it the awe and shock method. He may not like it at all but if you plan on doing it, you just do it, that is the shock part of it all for him. Consider journaling your journey. It will help you process your thoughts and feelings. I will be here to support. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]