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Subject: Re: teen with impacted colon Author: Kitten Paw [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: Thursday, December 12, 2024, 12:21: am In reply to: Shelly 's message, "Re: teen with impacted colon" on Wednesday, December 11, 2024, 11:11: pm So I think you did an awesome job too. I'm worried about her too. If she didn't have a bowel movement until this morning that's five days. I know she started those five days with an empty colon but still. So just curious. Is she clipped close on her bush or is she shaved on some of it. I want to shave totally smooth because I like the feel of being totally smooth. I hated it when hair started to grow. But mom and dad will see it and I'll probably get spanked and an enema just for doing that. And also didn't she get upset that your two boys got to see her getting her enemas. If my mom made me go to a friend for an enema and that lady let her boys see me getting an enema I would be so mad at her. I don't want anyone to ever get to watch me get an enema. [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: teen with impacted colon Author: Shelly [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Thursday, December 12, 2024, 12:18: pm Oh Kitten Paw :) Aren't you the young lady that said boys are the worst about saying things sexually to you that they would never say to your face? That's a yes. Let me answer your second question first. Just last Friday two very young nurses, one an RN and the other a CNA went to her house to clean out her colon. She knew why they were there. Mom said while they were taking her temp., blood pressure, heart rate she was shaking and starting to gasp for air like she was going to hyperventilate. She said they then had to take her by the hand to get her to stand up and go with them to mom's bedroom where there is a toilet just right there. Mom could hear the RN saying to her as she is walking her to the bedroom "do you think you can get a bowel movement for me while we get your first enema ready?" Probably after three hours in there with them while on the toilet getting her enemas back out which you said is for you the worst part of having an enema, that my boys seeing her get her enema was peanuts. They never saw her on the toilet getting her enema back out. She was quite calm for me for actually. I could tell when she walked in the door that she was a little upset but I took her by the arm and walked to the bathroom and had her pants down around her ankles and over my leg and getting lubricant applicated in her rectum in about one and a half minutes! It was so fast that she didn't have time to get herself all worked up. She did fine even with all of the 7 year old drama. She was just concentrating on following my directions and the sensations she was getting from her enema. She was just really focused on her enema and not him. Okay now for your curiosity. She is shaved baby butt smooth. Like you want to be. Most girls will experiment with some clipping or trimming or shaving at some point. A lot of times it is the boyfriend or husband that pressures them to get rid of pubic hair. Honestly I am clipped very closely because that is how hubby likes me. If you want that too because you like the feel of being smooth like when you were quite young and had your hand in your pants then I say go for it. If you get spanked and given an enema for wanting to get rid of pubic and all genital and anal hair then shame on them. It in no way puts your health at risk and it is just something that makes you happy about your perineal area. They will get over it. Just remember though if you are one of those who hovers instead of sitting when in a public bathroom like we all know a lot of girls are then your urine is going to run across your buttocks and down the bottom of your legs following gravity. If you are okay with that then you go girl. So now that you and I are on a truth trail, please tell my about your spankings from your dad. Personally I'm against spanking any child above the age of Temper Tantrums and I worry about you still having to undergo spankings. Are you naked at all? Does he use a paddle or something? Do you get blisters or really dark purple bruising? I'm hoping you say you only get a few swats to get your attention and to make his point. So please elaborate. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: teen with impacted colon Author: Joyce [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Thursday, December 12, 2024, 03:15: pm Shelly, Let me begin by saying something I should have said some time back: I do not have any formal medical training. My suggestions here are a mix of commonsense and personal experience with my daughter and the children of a couple of my friends and not legal professional medical advice. Before you act, think carefully about what I say and what you know from other sources. That said, I had some difficulty sorting out from your post last night as to what actually happened yesterday. It appears that sitter was quite cooperative and your heart to heart talk with her about your childhood experiences probably strengthened your bond with her. I hope she realizes your intent is to help her with a problem that needs immediate attention. As Kitten Paw noticed, sitter went without a BM for at least four days after the nurses cleaned out her colon. That suggests to me that there is some enlargement of her colon that has occurred over time that needs prompt corrective action. From your description I do not believe either of her enemas yesterday got all the way up into her colon. So I suggest that you contact sitter (and possibly her mom) and ask her to come back tomorrow when there is less chaos and no school the next day to let you repeat the two-part enema exactly as I described last Sunday. Keep notes of exactly what you do and her reactions both physically and verbally to help us understand the condition of her colon and rectum. Then next Wednesday when she comes over after school you can do the through cleansing that her mom was adamant that you do soon. If sitter trusts you to be gentle and cooperates I think you can get it done in a couple of hours. - Joyce [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: teen with impacted colon Author: Shelly [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Thursday, December 12, 2024, 05:52: pm Joyce, Because of my awful experience of withholding my poop when I started school I've done so much research on stool withholding which if not stopped the instant a parent realizes, if they ever do, often leads to encopresis where there is a hard dried out stool not too far up the sigmoid that is large enough that the colon is unable to move it. Weeks and weeks of Miralax is unable to move it but simply causes the child to mess them selves with enema by mouth Miralax. Magnesium citrate did that exact thing to me. Let's be clear out there parents, if you have been ordered to give your child large daily doses of Miralax, you are just giving them enema by mouth. Let that sink in. And then you are told to put them in pull ups because they can not tell you for certain when that enema by mouth will come out. Soapsuds enemas and the rinse enemas often are much more successful. And in some hospital settings they will use milk and molasses enemas because it creates a lot of gas which expands the colon so the lump can come down. Milk and molasses enemas are very unpleasant because there is a lot of intense cramping with the gas. I don't think she still has a large stool in her. The nurses said they palpated her colon and abdomen after her last enema and they didn't feel anything and her last enema returns were nearly clear. But I think she is or was a holder. But unlike most holders that start around the ages typically of 4 to 7 or 8, I think she started holding later like when mom said she was deep into puberty but probably several months before she started wetting the bed. I think she has stretched her rectum more than the rest of her colon and resisting her rectum trying to empty when she was at school or out in public. She wanted to wait until she got home to poop. So now her rectum from years of holding it in until she gets to her comfortable own bathroom has to be really full of a large stool before it spasms to try to make her get it out. I'm very much in thinking with you and Kitten Paw in that we have to get a bowel movement from her regularly. Mom warned me if I ever mention oral laxative, fiber I will have lost her cooperation. She asked the nurses since she will not take oral what did they suggest in the way of rectal to keep from getting backed up like this again. They said they are just nurses, they can not give medical advice but the RN did tell her that if she is allowed to go four or five days without a bowel movement she doesn't see a clear path to her colon being able to start to recover it's strength. Mom told me last Fri. that as long as I had daughter's cooperation she trusted me to keep her from getting backed up again. If I want her to go for another x-ray or Dr. consult just let her know. So I'm not going to let her go five days without a bowel movement. I'm leaning towards a major clean out on Sundays where I have all afternoon to get a cleanse on her like the nurses did. If she still enjoys helping with Junior's enema then that will be a small reward for her. Then an enema every Wed. after school. That way the longest she can possibly go with pooping is three and a half days. Wed. evening until noon on Sun. and then from Sun. afternoon until late Wed. afternoon. I'm going to ask her if she will babysit Sun. while hubby and I go out for lunch. Tell her I want her to come earlier than normal because we need to talk about her enema maintenance going forward until she gets in to see the GI Dr. That maintenance enemas are for sure in her future and we will talk about how often. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: teen with impacted colon Author: AV [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Thursday, December 12, 2024, 06:37: pm Shelly, I love your idea. I think you have thought this through. Sunday evening enema plus a reward to helping with junior’s enema and then an enema on Wednesday. As often as you can give her an enema to poop will help her. Will also make her fill better. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: teen with impacted colon Author: Kitten Paw [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Thursday, December 12, 2024, 09:09: pm Well I'm same age as your babysitter and I think I know how she feels right now. She knows she is not going to be allowed to go four and five days without a bowel movement. The nurses pretty much made that clear to her with how alarmed they were about her impacted bowel. She knows if she gives you any trouble she will get the nurses again. She didn't like girls old enough to just be her big sister giving her enemas for three hours. And she shaves herself smooth and I can tell you she definitely doesn't want mom to see that. So even though she now knows enemas aren't fun and she doesn't want them she does want Shelly a mom type and not a big sister type to give them to her. I predict she won't give you any sass or back talk at all. Shelly yes I forgot about pee running across my butt when I was little. That is a negative but it is not a deal breaker. I just need a little more courage to do it. So my spankings are not severe enough to leave big purple bruises. Just deep pink and my bottom stings for about an hour or two then it is all gone. I know the severity of all my crimes by now and what the punishment is going to be and yes I do sometimes lip off to him just so that I will get an enema too. I hate enemas so I have no clue why I do that. Spankings start with corner time with hands on head for a few minutes. 3 or 4 usually. Then pants and underwear down and a couple more minutes of corner time then he comes and like a minute or two of hand spanking so fast I can't count them. Then I'm done if I don't have to have an enema. Ever since I was old enough to know enough to obey an order from him that is always how I got a spanking. I don't hate him for it. I love my dad even if he thinks that is how you correct bad behavior. I don't remember ever getting a spanking and being super mad because I didn't think I deserved it. I actually get away with things that are probably punishable. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]