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Subject: Sighting of the moon Author: TedEBear [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 17:57:52 12/04/02 Wed Author Host/IP: NoHost/192.251.75.197 Salaamualikum, In regards to the sighting of the moon, there is this hadith in Bukhari: "Do not fast unless you sight the crescent, and do not break your fast till you sight the (following) crescent.” (Al-Bukhari, Vol. 3:130). Doesn't this mean that for whatever country muslims are in, they have to sight the moon there in order to either start or end Ramadan? Reason I ask is because the National Shoura Council in the USA issued the following statement: The National Shura Council held a conference call on Wednesday, November 27, 2002 to discuss the time of the upcoming Eid. After lengthy discussion, it was concluded that astronomical data indicates that it is impossible to sight the new crescent anywhere in North America on Wednesday, December 4, 2002, the 29th day of Ramadan. It is almost certain that Eid ul Fitr will fall on Friday, December 6th. As such, Muslim communities may make arrangements for Eid prayer on December 6th. However, the National Shura Council will continue to follow its standard procedures by being open to receive any reports of moon sighting on Wednesday, December 4th. So do we follow what the Fiqh Council in Saudi say, or must someone in the USA see the moon in order to determine when Ramadan ends? Jazakhallah khair for your reply. I'm just trying to clear up when exactly do we pray Eid prayers, and based on who's sighting. [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> Subject: Re: Sighting of the moon Author: Laila Nasheeba [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 20:05:27 12/04/02 Wed Author Host/IP: dhcp024-210-181-243.woh.rr.com/24.210.181.243 As Salaamu Alaikoum, Praise be to Allah. We answered this question already many times when ramadhan began. If you continue to read your Bukhari you will then come to the hadith whereas some peopel from syria came to mecca and asked the prophet why he was fasting when they had spotted the moon a day before.. the prophet(saw) then ordered everyone to break their fast and he said, "If one reliable source says they see the moon then that is sufficient." There is only one moon and one ramadhan. The moon has been spotted not just by ONE reliable source but hundreds of others too. It has been spotten in egypt, syria, kuwait, UAE, Saudi.. all over so thus.. RAMADHAN HAS ENDED BROTHER. AND ALLAH KNOWS BEST Laila Nasheeba

[> Subject: Re: Sighting of the moon Author: Laila Nasheeba [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 22:50:00 12/04/02 Wed Author Host/IP: dhcp024-210-181-243.woh.rr.com/24.210.181.243 Salaam, I forgot to put my daleel: According to the majority of scholars, it does not matter if the new moon has been sighted in a different location. In other words, after the new moon is seen anywhere in the world, it becomes obligatory for all Muslims to begin fasting, as the Prophet said: "Fast due to its sighting and break the fast due to its sighting." This hadith is a general address directed to the whole Muslim world - that is, "if any one of you sees the moon in any place, then that will be a sighting for all of the people." Ibn 'Umar said: "The people were looking for the new moon and when I reported to the Messenger of Allah that I had seen it, he fasted and ordered the people to fast." This is related by Abu Dawud, al-Hakim, and Ibn Hibban, who declared it to be sahih. The moon was spotted in Kuwait, UAE, Syria, Saudi, Egypt and many other places so thus seen by not ONE person but hundreds of people....Ramadhan has ended!