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Date Posted: 09:59:01 07/18/00 Tue
Author: Remington
Subject: Re: Release, Golf Magazine - Peter please read
In reply to: Dave Ferguson 's message, "Release, Golf Magazine - Peter please read" on 06:20:48 07/18/00 Tue

Dave: I think many of us are going through this piece by piece analysis, to properly assemble the swing.

For me, one of the easiest ways to view the swing is to view the right hand from the top of the backswing to the end of the swing, and to note that the right hand is not trying to cross over until the end. HOWEVER, it is important to understand that it is, in fact, as Peter stated, going through a rotational movement, but is square at impact. As you are sitting in your chair, put your right hand into the, "I swear to tell the truth, the whole truth..." position, and, KEEPING YOUr ELBOW AT YOUR SIDE, let your hand move towards the center of your stomach, and you will see that the right arm will slant to the left, and, if you had a club in your hand, the head would be pointing left. To keep the clubhead square, you must keep the elbow in front of the stomach (for our experiment; in front of the hip for NG).

What's my point? My point is that you can view release in slo Moe, with NG by putting your hand in the "I swear to tell the truth"...position, just standing there, with no club, and fake swing the hand through, keeping the palm facing straight forward, and not letting it cross over the left at the top of the swing. THAT'S THE RELEASE.

Now, let's discuss the drop into the slot move, which Peter is working on, and figure out how that works. I just cannot understand how that is a deliberate move (should be an effect; don't have a clue though). Properly executed, the CONSISTENT power is related to that move.

Remington

> Peter,
> From your posts you seem to have worked hard on the
> release.
> I'm putting my swing together piece by piece. Thanks
> to Remington I've settled on the grip. Related to this
> is the "no knuckles showing" left hand grip that you
> advocate. This is necessary to prevent a hook with the
> right hand in a strong position. I have also had to go
> one step further by not rotating the arms. This is all
> preamble to some ideas picked up from Golf mag and
> Doug Sanders on Academy Live.
>
> Point 1:
> This month's Golf Magazine has an article on the
> release. It states that "As the arms pass in front of
> the body on the downswing, the right arm naturally
> rotates over the left". He further states that this
> rotational force adds speed and helps square the
> clubface.
>
> In another post we have already discussed the speed
> issue. I agree with you that rotation it isn't a major
> factor on the other hand I believe that the release
> is. More on that in a second.
>
> As to squaring the club face I don't get it. For SA
> players the left arm (top rail) is above the right arm
> at setup and the club face is square. This is the same
> position at impact ie no arm over arm rotation.
> Certainly I have to do this or the ball will hook like
> crazy.
>
> Ok so what is the release? Here's an idea I've been
> working on. There are two types of arm rotation i) The
> whole arm from the shoulder ii) The forearm only from
> below the elbow.
>
> With CG the wrist unhinging happens at the same time
> as the right arm rotating over the left. I'm thinking
> that becaus they happen at the same time that this
> source of the confusion about rotation providing
> power. Instead the wrist unhinging is probably more
> important. The important part is the club head lags
> prior to impact and passes the hands after impact.
> This is the basis for the impact backwards drills.
>
> Suppose that we don't rotate the entire arm. With the
> wrist unhinging we should still have plenty of club
> head speed. The only concern might be if we inhibit
> this wrist motion by blocking any arm rotation. This
> would be result either, in the back of the left hand
> facing the sky well after impact, thereby losing the
> snap at the bottom of the swing or a backhand slap of
> the ball with the left wrist collapsing and no
> extension. Instead I'm thinking of keeping the left
> arm above or just even with the right arm on the
> follow through (ie no full arm over arm rotation from
> the shoulder) but allowing the freedom to for the
> wrists to unhinge by letting the forearms only rotate.
> When I do this the thumbs point up and both arms
> extend toward the target after impact.
>
> This is where Doug Sanders comes in. It appeared that
> his follow through looked just like this with both
> arms extended to the target!
>
> Related to this is that the left arm does not stay
> tucked into the left side after impact. I am allowing
> it to fold but only after both arms are extended to
> the target. The advantage here is that my shoulders
> aren't pulled around as the right arm runs out of room
> as they would be if I kept the left arm tucked. This
> helps to keep me from spinning.
>
> Long post but I'd appreciate your comments.

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