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Date Posted: 13:10:49 03/07/02 Thu
Author: Nicole Sawyer
Subject: Re: topic 3
In reply to: j curboy 's message, "topic 3" on 05:21:40 02/26/02 Tue


The Romans were so successful for so many years because throughout their years, they kept progressing their society and making changes for the better. They were always improving the way their government was run and their army to make everyone happy. That way, no one would want to overrule the government so their culture was more successful. The downfall of the Romans came about when their power got to be too much that they couldnt control it. They couldnt control all their land so it got split up into many different sections. Their sections didnt always get along causing wars among them. Therefore they wipped out their own culture.

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[> Re: topic 3 -- jamie falzone, 14:06:27 03/07/02 Thu

>Every civilization to come down the pike has visions
>of lasting for a thousand years. This is especially
>true of the Romans. Investigate why the romans were
>so successful for so long and what finally caused
>their downfall. Compare this to any more modern
>culture to see if there are any reasons why the more
>modern civilizations are not able to LAST. Use
>specifics when making your arguement.

Rome was obviously a very powerful empire at its height in power. However, as most of the other empires we will learn about, it had its problems and ultimately fell.
The Romans were so successful for so long because they were able to conquer their enemies and create a peaceful, stable society. The Etruscans became the leaders of Rome and made it the richest and most prominent city-state. I think that some good elements in the success of Rome were the customs, skills, and cultural aspects of life that the people developed. The Romans developed the idea of governmental practices, helping to set order and rule in the community. Rome fought many battles and won. Part of what made Rome successful in the military aspects was that the Romans would get revenge on anyone and everyone so they would easily rid of enemies.
The economy began to fail as well as the relations citizens had with one another and the governmental bodies. Because of the different social statuses, the people argued over power, causing civil war. This tore up parts of Rome and was a factor in bringing the society down the drain. The Romans are known for loving life and living it to its fullest and I think that while they were relaxing and enjoying life, their society fell apart infront of their eyes. Rome did have leaders that did their duties well however, not all of the emperors were wonderful and this brought the society down even further. I think that it is important for the leaders of societies to be strong and sure and some of the Roman emperors were not this way and so people rebelled against the government and other governmental issues arose. Ultimately, Rome fell and other cultures and societies took over control.
In 581, China reunited under the Sui dynasty. The government became more powerful and the Great Wall was rebuilt thus helping rebuild the spirits of the Chinese peoples. As the T'ang dunasty gained power, the armies in China began to protect from nomadic people and China was safe from invaders. The emperor was the person in charge in the Chinese society and the people were divided into parts with different color apparel, each group loyal to the king. Some peasants, however, rebelled because of land shares and the rulers did their best to keep the bureaucrats from being too powerful. The population grew and China was becoming very powerful. Rulers understood and accepted the peolple's religious choices and treated different religions equally. However, the T'ang dynasty began to fall as attacks were being focused on China. The government declined, dynasties struggled, and the T'ang dynasty fell in 906.
All cultures and societies have a beginning and an end and many different elements influence how these happen. Mostly, the problems that brought both Rome and China down were economic problems, emperors/rulers were too powerful or caused people to rebel, and fighting was happening both inside and outside of the cities. When one society falls, another is at its height, every society has its ups and downs.

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