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Date Posted: Wed, Aug 07 2002, 16:16:23
Author: Alex
Subject: Re: Get a diving cert at Redang or Tioman?
In reply to: Samuel 's message, "Re: Get a diving cert at Redang or Tioman?" on Wed, Jul 31 2002, 17:39:41

My 2 cents worth...
1) The school/diveshop running the course is probably the most important one if you want to ensure 'proper' training. I have heard horror stories about diveshops cutting corners, even to the extent of PADI-basic certified divers who don't know how to swim!

I did my Basic & Advanced NAUI course with Mako Sub-Aquatics (Singapore) through my company and even before we were allowed to start the Basic course, we had to swim 200m non-stop (any style), tread water 15 minutes and swim 20m underwater on a single breath. We also had to get certified by a medical doctor specializing in hyperbaric medicine (in my case even went for head X-rays to check my sinus cavities).

I should think that based on the course syllabus, one would need at least 4D to complete the Basic course (theory, confined & open water). If they take longer, it's because it's less intense (I did my basic over 2 weeks, spending 4 2-hr nights on theory, 2 3-hr nights in the pool for confined water, and a 3D/2N weekend at Pemanggil for open water).

2) Not much difference between PADI & NAUI though PADI seems to be more popular. Syllabus is similar, although during my NAUI Basic, we did rescue as well (except luckily didn't have to carry the guy up the boat/shore). So I think different schools/instructors might sometimes teach more or extra stuff.

3) As for place to do the course, cheapest would be in Singapore waters - you'll get extra 'low-visibility' skills training :)! Doing it in Malaysia costs more, but that depends where you go - places like Dayang, Aur, Pemanggil are probably cheaper than Tioman or Redang. But at least you've got clearer waters and have the chance to see interesting marine life.

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[> [> [> [> [> Our Trip to Redang -- Samuel Lai, Mon, Aug 12 2002, 19:09:18

Hi all, thks very much for your sharing.

Vivain and I just came bk from our trip to Redang and had a wonderful diving experience...we got our NAUI Open-Water Cert as well. We enjoyed our diving course very much, the instructor made our learning both solid and enjoyable...its so much better than any snorkelling that we've been doing over the years...yes it costs more but it gave us a very desirable start, we both love to do more diving...the marine life we had observed simply unforgettable, many 1sts in our life : blk-tip shark, sea turtle, angel fish, clown fish, sting-ray...etc.

Two things will cause us to revist Redang :
1) For diving and we will go bk to the same diving instructor.
2) Visit our friends we made during our stay there.

Three things we will plan differently for our next trip :
1) Booking through agents at K.T may well cut the cost by as much as 1/2 from the pkg, though a little bit more work for ourselves.
2) Check with the resort if they would let us do late check out for the last day, otherwise we will waste our whole day at K.T waitting for the returning coach rather than have more fun at the island.
3) Services/food provided had been disappointing for the price we paid, a few foreign couples who travelled a lot in the region also agree, so we will select a different resort but still go bk for the same diving instructor for our next visit...imagine you could not take more than one chicken wing each person for the BBQ dinner and not seeing the management staff talking to you after you paid your bill upon arrival until your departure! But diving saved our trip... :)

Hope every one who will visit Redang would have wonderful experience.

Samuel Lai


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[> [> [> [> [> Our Trip to Redang -- Samuel Lai, Mon, Aug 12 2002, 19:14:02

Hi all, thks very much for your sharing.

Vivain and I just came bk from our trip to Redang and had a wonderful diving experience...we got our NAUI Open-Water Cert as well. We enjoyed our diving course very much, the instructor made our learning both solid and enjoyable...its so much better than any snorkelling that we've been doing over the years...yes it costs more but it gave us a very desirable start, we both love to do more diving...the marine life we had observed simply unforgettable, many 1sts in our life : blk-tip shark, sea turtle, angel fish, clown fish, sting-ray...etc.

Two things will cause us to revist Redang :
1) For diving and we will go bk to the same diving instructor.
2) Visit our friends we made during our stay there.

Three things we will plan differently for our next trip :
1) Booking through agents at K.T may well cut the cost by as much as 1/2 from the pkg, though a little bit more work for ourselves.
2) Check with the resort if they would let us do late check out for the last day, otherwise we will waste our whole day at K.T waitting for the return-trip coach rather than having more fun at Redang.
3) Services/food provided had been disappointing for the price we paid, a few foreign couples who travelled a lot in the region also agree, so we will select a different resort but still go bk for the same diving instructor for our next visit...imagine you could not take more than one chicken wing each person for the BBQ dinner and not seeing the management staff talking to you after you paid your bill upon arrival until your departure! But diving saved our trip... :)

Hope everyone who will visit Redang have wonderful experience.

Samuel Lai


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[> [> [> [> [> [> Re: Our Trip to Redang -- Mark, Mon, Aug 12 2002, 19:25:57

Hi Sam,

Which resort were u staying at Redang?


>Hi all, thks very much for your sharing.
>
>Vivain and I just came bk from our trip to Redang and
>had a wonderful diving experience...we got our NAUI
>Open-Water Cert as well. We enjoyed our diving course
>very much, the instructor made our learning both solid
>and enjoyable...its so much better than any
>snorkelling that we've been doing over the years...yes
>it costs more but it gave us a very desirable start,
>we both love to do more diving...the marine life we
>had observed simply unforgettable, many 1sts in our
>life : blk-tip shark, sea turtle, angel fish, clown
>fish, sting-ray...etc.
>
>Two things will cause us to revist Redang :
>1) For diving and we will go bk to the same diving
>instructor.
>2) Visit our friends we made during our stay there.
>
>Three things we will plan differently for our next
>trip :
>1) Booking through agents at K.T may well cut the cost
>by as much as 1/2 from the pkg, though a little bit
>more work for ourselves.
>2) Check with the resort if they would let us do late
>check out for the last day, otherwise we will waste
>our whole day at K.T waitting for the return-trip
>coach rather than having more fun at Redang.
>3) Services/food provided had been disappointing for
>the price we paid, a few foreign couples who travelled
>a lot in the region also agree, so we will select a
>different resort but still go bk for the same diving
>instructor for our next visit...imagine you could not
>take more than one chicken wing each person for the
>BBQ dinner and not seeing the management staff talking
>to you after you paid your bill upon arrival until
>your departure! But diving saved our trip... :)
>
>Hope everyone who will visit Redang have wonderful
>experience.
>
>Samuel Lai


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[> [> [> [> [> [> Re: Our Trip to Redang -- WetCam, Tue, Aug 13 2002, 12:22:15


yes, tell us which resort provide this BAD service
so other who travel there next time will not be the
victim.....


>Hi all, thks very much for your sharing.
>
>Vivain and I just came bk from our trip to Redang and
>had a wonderful diving experience...we got our NAUI
>Open-Water Cert as well. We enjoyed our diving course
>very much, the instructor made our learning both solid
>and enjoyable...its so much better than any
>snorkelling that we've been doing over the years...yes
>it costs more but it gave us a very desirable start,
>we both love to do more diving...the marine life we
>had observed simply unforgettable, many 1sts in our
>life : blk-tip shark, sea turtle, angel fish, clown
>fish, sting-ray...etc.
>
>Two things will cause us to revist Redang :
>1) For diving and we will go bk to the same diving
>instructor.
>2) Visit our friends we made during our stay there.
>
>Three things we will plan differently for our next
>trip :
>1) Booking through agents at K.T may well cut the cost
>by as much as 1/2 from the pkg, though a little bit
>more work for ourselves.
>2) Check with the resort if they would let us do late
>check out for the last day, otherwise we will waste
>our whole day at K.T waitting for the return-trip
>coach rather than having more fun at Redang.
>3) Services/food provided had been disappointing for
>the price we paid, a few foreign couples who travelled
>a lot in the region also agree, so we will select a
>different resort but still go bk for the same diving
>instructor for our next visit...imagine you could not
>take more than one chicken wing each person for the
>BBQ dinner and not seeing the management staff talking
>to you after you paid your bill upon arrival until
>your departure! But diving saved our trip... :)
>
>Hope everyone who will visit Redang have wonderful
>experience.
>
>Samuel Lai


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: Our Trip to Redang -- Samuel Lai, Tue, Aug 13 2002, 14:41:33

Hi WetCam,
for that resort info, I would prefer to email to your personal email address rather than putting them onto the forum...pls check your yahoo email address provided seems could not go through.
Samuel Lai
>
>yes, tell us which resort provide this BAD service
>so other who travel there next time will not be the
>victim.....
>
>
>>Hi all, thks very much for your sharing.
>>
>>Vivain and I just came bk from our trip to Redang and
>>had a wonderful diving experience...we got our NAUI
>>Open-Water Cert as well. We enjoyed our diving course
>>very much, the instructor made our learning both solid
>>and enjoyable...its so much better than any
>>snorkelling that we've been doing over the years...yes
>>it costs more but it gave us a very desirable start,
>>we both love to do more diving...the marine life we
>>had observed simply unforgettable, many 1sts in our
>>life : blk-tip shark, sea turtle, angel fish, clown
>>fish, sting-ray...etc.
>>
>>Two things will cause us to revist Redang :
>>1) For diving and we will go bk to the same diving
>>instructor.
>>2) Visit our friends we made during our stay there.
>>
>>Three things we will plan differently for our next
>>trip :
>>1) Booking through agents at K.T may well cut the cost
>>by as much as 1/2 from the pkg, though a little bit
>>more work for ourselves.
>>2) Check with the resort if they would let us do late
>>check out for the last day, otherwise we will waste
>>our whole day at K.T waitting for the return-trip
>>coach rather than having more fun at Redang.
>>3) Services/food provided had been disappointing for
>>the price we paid, a few foreign couples who travelled
>>a lot in the region also agree, so we will select a
>>different resort but still go bk for the same diving
>>instructor for our next visit...imagine you could not
>>take more than one chicken wing each person for the
>>BBQ dinner and not seeing the management staff talking
>>to you after you paid your bill upon arrival until
>>your departure! But diving saved our trip... :)
>>
>>Hope everyone who will visit Redang have wonderful
>>experience.
>>
>>Samuel Lai


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> IMO - Good idea to put it on the forum for others to see. -- tangotee, Wed, Aug 14 2002, 19:11:20

I think it is a good idea to put the name up but then again I understand the implications, someone else less honest go do malice to a good resort...

I am in the process of booking my stay with a resort at Redang. I would appreciate if you could reveal the resort to me via e-mail. My e-mail is as listed as such but kindly remove the "NOSPAM" portion of the address.

Thank you Samuel Lai

I agree full heartedly with this quote from a Bali forumite:
"We find excuses for less than satisfactory with the . Some people seem to think this is knocking.. well .. maybe it is but until we expect and demand what we pay for, we deserve to get less." RIGHT ON.

>Hi WetCam,
>for that resort info, I would prefer to email to your
>personal email address rather than putting them onto
>the forum...pls check your yahoo email address
>provided seems could not go through.
>Samuel Lai
>>
>>yes, tell us which resort provide this BAD service
>>so other who travel there next time will not be the
>>victim.....
>>
>>
>>>Hi all, thks very much for your sharing.
>>>
>>>Vivain and I just came bk from our trip to Redang and
>>>had a wonderful diving experience...we got our NAUI
>>>Open-Water Cert as well. We enjoyed our diving course
>>>very much, the instructor made our learning both
>solid
>>>and enjoyable...its so much better than any
>>>snorkelling that we've been doing over the
>years...yes
>>>it costs more but it gave us a very desirable start,
>>>we both love to do more diving...the marine life we
>>>had observed simply unforgettable, many 1sts in our
>>>life : blk-tip shark, sea turtle, angel fish, clown
>>>fish, sting-ray...etc.
>>>
>>>Two things will cause us to revist Redang :
>>>1) For diving and we will go bk to the same diving
>>>instructor.
>>>2) Visit our friends we made during our stay there.
>>>
>>>Three things we will plan differently for our next
>>>trip :
>>>1) Booking through agents at K.T may well cut the
>cost
>>>by as much as 1/2 from the pkg, though a little bit
>>>more work for ourselves.
>>>2) Check with the resort if they would let us do late
>>>check out for the last day, otherwise we will waste
>>>our whole day at K.T waitting for the return-trip
>>>coach rather than having more fun at Redang.
>>>3) Services/food provided had been disappointing for
>>>the price we paid, a few foreign couples who
>travelled
>>>a lot in the region also agree, so we will select a
>>>different resort but still go bk for the same diving
>>>instructor for our next visit...imagine you could not
>>>take more than one chicken wing each person for the
>>>BBQ dinner and not seeing the management staff
>talking
>>>to you after you paid your bill upon arrival until
>>>your departure! But diving saved our trip... :)
>>>
>>>Hope everyone who will visit Redang have wonderful
>>>experience.
>>>
>>>Samuel Lai


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