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Date Posted: 21:24:43 05/15/02 Wed
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Proph
's message, "10 Questions that make me think" on 22:45:03 05/14/02 Tue
This is for those who think that they are the only ones who "think". Think on these questions....
Why is it that the original religion of Adam, Abraham, Noah, Moses, Jesus, etc. remained unchanged? But, suddenly when Paul (the former persecuter and hater of those who practiced this religion) came on the scene, everything suddenly changed...and we are cool with that? Everything about the new testament, the new covenant, whatever you wanna call it, was influenced by Paul. There are soooooo many similarities between this new covenant, and ancient hellenistic or "paganistic" religions dating back way before Christ. I'm not just saying this either. The idea of holy communion. This was practiced way before Christ's death...look it up if you don't believe it. The idea of eating and drinking the body and blood of a man/god is not unique to Christianity. Look it up in the library or on the internet if you want. Keywords--> Mithras(Persian), Dionysus(Greece), Osirus(Egypt)...the list goes on. Of course we don't learn about this in class, or in church. These paganistic religions where wiped out as the Roman Empire and Europe began to adopt this new religion Christianity. If you refuse to believe that Hellenistic and Paganistic ideas could have influenced the real truth, where do you think Christmas on December 25th came from? Christs birthday. I think not. This was the pagan's day to celebrate the winter solstice/the sun god's birthday. What about Easter? These dates were celebrated long before Christ and just incorporated along with several other concepts. Let us continue. Why is it that there is no mention of a 3 part God until we get into the period of Roman and Hellenistic influence. No one before Pauls books ever mentioned the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit as being part of the one God. As a matter of fact, not even Paul ever says that these 3 beings are 1 God. It was the Roman Emporer Constantine who came up with this idea at the Council of Nicea. So, now we want to claim that its from God.
My friend God is bigger than this book you use to judge everyone. Many of the people you say are going to hell, are likely to be more in touch with the truth than you.
Do you believe that the Bible is perfect?
There are tooo many examples in the Bible showing those who really seek the truth without bias that the book is not perfect....
Just consider what this book says about women. I will only include the new testament, since this is what most believe now.
1 Corinthians 11:3: "...Christ is the head of every man, and a husband the head of his wife, and the head of Christ is God. (NIV)". There is some debate among theologians about the translation of the Greek word "kephale" as "head." However that word is universally used in New Testament translations.
1 Corinthians 11:7-9:"For a man...is the image and glory of God; but woman is the glory of man. For man did not come from woman, but woman from man; neither was man created for woman but woman for man. For this reason, and because of the angels, the woman ought to have a sign of authority on her head." (NIV) This refers to the practice of women wearing hair covering as a sign of inferiority. This is not longer widely observed today.
1 Corinthians 14:34-35: "...women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says, If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church."
THis is the great Paul spreading the word of man, not God my friend.
1 Timothy 2:11-15:"A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent..." (NIV)
You said, "How come those who have so many questions concerning the Bible's authenticity-are always the ones trying to quote from the bible? You can't believe in 2 scriptures in the bible. It's all or none"
Well, my friend, are you telling me that you believe this. Please, do not try to give me some abstract meanings to these simply stated scriptures. It is very obvious, unless you don't want to be real with yourself, that these represent the influence of the current tradition of treating women as inferiors during the period of time when the books were written...by men. And trust me, theres a lot more where that came from. Thats only a few passage regarding women.
There is much information in the Bible that if studied with a spiritual mind can help one understand God, but be careful about how you use certain doctrine to condemn everyone.
You asked, "How can someone believe in Christ but not believe in his teachings?"
I ask you, "Are those Christ's teachings that you refer to, or somebody else putting words in Christ's mouth?"
Do not think that this is impossible. If you do, you are giving man too much credit. Don't be so naive. There is too much evidence.
I am going to stop here, and wait upon a response.
Let us continue to sincerely and unbiasedly seek the truth together my friend.
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