Re: Ray Gillen-Don't say it's true. -- Sleaze Roxx

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Date Posted: 17:18:47 03/30/06 Thu
Author: Laura
Subject: Re: Ray Gillen-Don't say it's true.
In reply to: This is 4u Jake 's message, "Re: Ray Gillen-Don't say it's true." on 17:12:56 03/30/06 Thu

>>Why are you guys so bitter towards Ray Gillen!?! Did
>>this personally happen to you? He's one of my favorite
>>singers of all-time!!I hope this stuff isn't true, I'd
>>hate to think someone would purposely infect other
>>people like that. I just read about Ray in Black
>>Sabbath-Never Say Die. Former band mates pretty much
>>said he knew he was HIV-Positive and he would have
>>unprotected sex. How would they know? I hope they are
>>wrong. P.S. just b happy u never f'd him he liked men too.
>yes it is true. no one is bitter. the truth is the
>bitter truth. believe me band members know what the
>others are doing. the record label knew too. i
>contacted a lawyer to sue after he gave me herpes but
>who wants to come out and publicly divulge their sex
>life. by the way the attorney wanted to take the case
>but i was 19 and my parents did not want that to be
>public knowledge. so here's the story. i was brought
>up Catholic and attended private schools. I had 2
>premartial sex partners prior. my girlfriends come by
>and want to sneak in to the concert at Hara Arena. it
>was easy to do in 1986. we got inside as Black sabbath
>was playing. my cousin managed to push to the front
>of the crowd with me and another girlfriend. After
>the concert my cousin has a crush on ray and wants to
>met him. i was suppose to attend classes at sinclair
>the next day. neither of us had ever been a band
>groupie or sleazy. my cousin drives back by the
>buses. i lay down in the back seat to sleep. the
>girls waiting out back, the official B.S. groupies
>were scary. the hardest, roughest group i'd ever seen.
>they were lifting their mini shirts up for the roadies
>etc. we stayed in the car. eventually the band comes
>out and my cousin is like oh my god with excitement.
>she is 18. we follow the bus. my cousin pulls up
>beside it. ray leans his head out a window waving us
>to follow the bus. my cousin does. we pull up in front
>of Stouffers Hotel in downtown dayton, ohio. we get
>out and watch tony O. and lita ford get off the bus
>first. then we walk up and the band manager escorts
>us in past a small group of forlorn girls. we looked
>like we belonged at a pizza palor not following B.S.
>i never even owned an album of theirs. ray says cu in
>a minute. we go with the manager into his room and
>eventually ray comes in and then the bass player
>doused in Laugerfeld cologne. he stunkand i told him
>so. he was so out of it he could barely talk. he felt
>insulted because we werent naked yet. remember we r
>there b/c my cousin is being juvenile. she has him
>sign her shirt. he signs on the hotel stationary to
>catch the seventh star. i look at him thinking it
>means something mystical and ask. he smirks and says
>that our new album. he realized then we were not B.S.
>groupies just fresh clean midwest naive pussy. he goes
>to leave the room and motions for me to follow him. i
>do and he says come to my room. i told him that my
>cousin had thought he was cute. he told me i dont want
>her. i want u. i debated about it. just for the
>helluva it i thought. i had never done the band thing
>and thought well i could have something to laugh about
>later in life. we go to his room. he aggressively
>grabs me and starts biting on my neck like a vampire.
>i said whoa this isnt a rape. we talk alittle than we
>kiss. he starts to pull at my clothes and i look at
>him and ask do u have anything? b/c i never had a VD
>in my life. let alone casual sex. he looks me in the
>eye and says no. back then i believed what people told
>me and besides who would lie about that when directly
>asked by the person u want to screw. we sart kissing
>more and suddenly he wants the light out. i now know
>so i couldnt see his blistered dick. i do remember
>when i touched it he let out alittle ow! again i was
>naive about VD. anyone else would have not been as
>dumb but remember we're in ohio here. the sex was not
>note worthy and i wished i hadnt done it at that
>point. he came on my stomach and got a kleenex and
>wiped it off. i got up and put on my clothes to
>leave. he stops me askswhere are u going. i reply
>home. the kicker is he asks me to stay and talk with
>him. i do with lights and clothes on for 6 hours. as
>a kid he watched little house on the pairie&ilooked
>like Mary. then it gets weird, he looks at me and says
>i'm so sorry, u are going to hate me in a couple days.
>you are not like the girls i am used to. your not a
>groupie. i said yea. then he asks then why did u come
>here. i told him why not something to look back on
>someday and say i did something wild.he wants my
>address and phone# Ihave no idea why. we walk out into
>the hallway where my cousin had been waiting all that
>time. at the elvator he hugs me tight&saysLaura
>remember one thing the eyes never lie and i am sorry.
>me and my cousin have not the slightest clue and
>herpes wasnt even something i knew about in 1986. 2
>days later i am at sinclair community college hurting
>so bad i cant zip my pants and brown liqiud is
>draining out of me. i knew i had something. i was
>scared. I went across the street to the public health
>dept. and found out i had herpes. in dayton, ohio it
>was so new other doctors came in to look whileiwailed.
> back then it was like having AIDS. i thought no one
>will ever want me. i'll never marry or have kids. my
>friends will even be afraid to let me use their
>bathroom. my mom had to come get me i was so
>distraught over my stupidity. Why? Why? i had
>thoughts of killing myself. i had a very bad case.
>every month for a year around my period i would break
>out like chicken pox down there and could barely move
>without flinching. eventually that stopped and its
>been over a decade since an outbreak. now everyone
>keeps herpes in their spice rack...meaning now it is
>no big deal. back then u wanted no one to discover
>your secret. i saw a lawyer who wanted the case. we
>were going to sue ray and the record company. i
>couldnt stand the thought of him doing this again and
>again to other people. well my parents threw a fit and
>told me their name wasnt going to be put thru the mud.
>a double whammy.so believe me i know he spread herpes.
>i would swear my life on it that he did the same thing
>intentionally HIV positive. in 1986 he told me he was
>18. i mean the guy even lied about his age. so what
>wouldnthe lie about??? that's something women in their
>40's do. i used to dream of bad things happening to
>him frequently for years. i hated to sleep b/c i didnt
>enjoy seeing his face.then i know this sounds crazy
>but around the early 90's i quit having these vengeful
>dreams and forgot. i never kept up on his career or
>tried to kill him. so by accident i am at best buy and
>ask one of the employees if they had heard of ray
>gillen. he said he died of stomach cancer. just
>desserts back at that time i knew it was AIDS.
>everyone who had AIDS was using stomnach cancer as the
>reason for their illness. I was 29 when i found out.
>guys will be guys but he was evil. that's all that can
>he could have been. imagine the chain of hate he
>caused. i never would infect anyone that's sick and
>twisted. i am sure though other girls were angry
>enough to intentionally spread their misery too.
>getting back at any guy was fair game for what
>happened to them. i think it also says alot that his
>daughter wasnt included in his life. first because he
>was who he was a lying cheating filthy asshole. no one
>wants their daughter to have that kind of man
>influence their precious child, let alone a girl. i
>know every mother no matter what will always love
>their son. but if anyone ever loved him besides Mama i
>am sure they HOPEFULLY LIVED TO REGRET IT.

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