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Date Posted: 03:00:51 10/04/02 Fri
Author: Lijdrec
Subject: It's meaning???
In reply to: Stevenav 's message, "crosses and their significance" on 01:23:23 10/04/02 Fri


I'll have to take your word for it that it is a Dagmar. Definitely a Byzantine design to the cross she is wearing, and the shape appears to be that of a Dagmar Cross.


So the Dagmar Cross is named for Queen Dagmar, the wife of Waldemar II., king of Denmark (d. 1213) on whose corpse it was found around 1619. It is of Byzantine design and workmanship, and is of enamelled gold; on one side is the Crucifixion, and on the other side the half figure of our Lord in the centre, with the Virgin and St John the Evangelist on. either side, and St Chrysostom and St Basil above and below.

So, ok.... what's the significance. The various Saints that appear on it, or the Byzantine design because the woman that died early on was in Istanbul (Constantinople, capital of Byzantium)?

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[> [> It's Istanbul, not Constantinople -- Glory, a They Might Be Giants fan, 21:22:56 10/04/02 Fri [1]

Why they changed it, I can't say. People just like it better that way.

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[> [> [> Huh? The Turks did it....... -- Lijdrec, 09:17:00 10/05/02 Sat [1]

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[> [> [> [> *sigh* I knew no one would get that. -- Glory, 11:47:07 10/05/02 Sat [1]

Don't mind me, Lij....I'm just quoting a silly song by one of my favorite bands. It's called Istanbul (Not Constantinople):

Istanbul was Constantinople
Now it's Istanbul, not Constantinople
Been a long time gone, Constantinople
Now it's Turkish delight on a moonlit night

Every gal in Constantinople
Lives in Istanbul, not Constantinople
So if you've a date in Constantinople
She'll be waiting in Istanbul

Even old New York was once New Amsterdam
Why they changed it I can't say
People just liked it better that way

So take me back to Constantinople
No, you can't go back to Constantinople
Been a long time gone, Constantinople
Why did Constantinople get the works?
That's nobody's business but the Turks

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[> [> [> [> [> well, I am a dolt when it comes to literary, musical, and entertainment references -- Lijdrec, 21:04:14 10/05/02 Sat [1]

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Aw, it's not you, Lij. No one ever gets my jokes or references. ;) -- Glory, 21:18:22 10/05/02 Sat [1]

In some circles, I am known as the queen of nonsequiturs.

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