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Date Posted: 22:47:58 04/06/03 Sun
Author: jackie
Subject: Re: sorry, l want to ask a question!
In reply to: smallmice 's message, "sorry, l want to ask a question!" on 18:44:34 04/02/03 Wed

One commonly asked question

If we retrospectively exam the root of modern music, African/ Black music will show you the postion it occupies. Basically, Blues and Jazz are relatives of each other. Some like to say Jazz evolutes from blues. In fact many Jazz standards are blues in its intimal form.

Most frequent comparisons of the two:
Blues is simplier in structure, harmony, texture than Jazz
Blues is many a time "love affair" in topic (you know the translation for "Blues"?)
Jazz can last as long as you want it to be, with theortically infinitve improvisations/ possiblities
Blue scale for most Blues, for part of Jazz
.......
One most easy thing to say than the rest: just find a piece to listen for yourself (yet I believe nobody will deny, the most useful point)
......

Things are not simple as that if you to further the discussion. Especially nowadays everything will somehow give you the hybrid! My advise for all: keep things simple, if possible.

Hope it's helpful.

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[> [> Re: sorry, l want to ask a question! -- smallmice, 14:36:24 04/15/03 Tue

oh~~thx
但我仲想問清楚D丫~~因為搵BLUES既資料同歌實在唔易(除非買碟)。
其實我知道BLUES即係藍調~
但就真係唔知佢以"love affair"為多~~究竟點解呢?總會有原因吧?
聽完你講之後,都唔係幾明點解JAZZ會吸收BLUES成為自己既一部份~~真係因為巧合?HISTORY?文化?
仲有,o係樂器運用上,聽講又係有分別ga喎,唔知你清唔清楚呢?我只知blues多用結他同口琴咋~

老實講丫,我知道JAZZ既好多資料~~但對於BLUES卻只知一二

thank you

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[> [> [> Re: sorry, l want to ask a question! -- jackie, 15:58:46 04/15/03 Tue

When you trace the development of a specific musical type, it is likely that controvesies will appear. I personally believe blues is what's happening in a earlier period before jazz form its own identity. One key point is the nature of the music as itself own. Like classical music, people believe it is for a more upper class people. Blues started as unacclaimed black music. What more people referring is Chicago blues in their mind. Go and find that out. Guitar with harmonica. That's true. Full of "root" sense so-called. In fact other subtype may appear in your mind if you think of them.......country blues...even may included R&B for some classification.

Let's discuss the matter later. I need to go now for the time being.

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[> [> [> [> Re: sorry, l want to ask a question! -- smallmice, 21:53:30 04/15/03 Tue

我知Chicago 是一個繁盛的時期
往往也被認定是一種音樂的重要時期

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[> [> [> [> [> Re: sorry, l want to ask a question! -- jackie, 18:59:31 04/17/03 Thu

Chicago Blues refer to the style of the music not just the place where many such musician settled. It's indicated by the soul and instinct emotional expression in terms of notes and bending of sound, being described as "blusy" nowadays. Basically it is still the most commonly quited blues style as representative. Check that out: Muddy water, John Lee Hooker,Sonnyboy Williamson.... those most famous and praised persons.

By the way, I think the Blues CDs are not expensive not all...some only cost $10-20. I'd suggest everyone who is interested to go and find one or two of those bootleg one for simply serve the purpose of appreciation of various musical style.

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[> [> [> [> [> Re: sorry, l want to ask a question! -- smallmice, 12:15:21 04/18/03 Fri

咁如果比你講下jazz同blues o係歷史上既既重要性比例,你覺得又係幾多呢?

我而家都有搵好多唔同既jazz聽下啦~

Blues CDs =>some only cost $10-20?
REALLY?

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Re: sorry, l want to ask a question! -- jazz, 14:41:17 04/22/03 Tue

It's a common error for us to compare two individual on different ground. In fact it's easy for discussion, yet not straight to the point. I believe in union and crossover for all kinds of music. It's just what's happening.

One very interesting point: A thing is important and meaningful only for those silly one who care! I totally agree. That's one reason and the single most important one for busy people as me(and many others) to try to "popularize" Jazz as its original artisic taste

Many CDs are much much cheap than ever before in HK. If you have a glance on some items in HMV (even this big boss!), they are similar in price to second hand items. You won't believe those days when I need to pay >$100 for cds that cost $60 something today.
Of course, it's time to testify your judgment and see if you can get the worthwhile one! Again the key point is to ask yourself: what's the purpose of this purchase? For collections? For exploration? ....
Go for it then.

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