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Subject: Re: Superman Triumphant


Author:
Mikael
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Date Posted: 15:58:56 08/19/04 Thu
In reply to: Jimmy Olsen 's message, "Superman Triumphant" on 18:11:02 07/26/04 Mon

In response to Jimmy Olsen's "Superman Triumphant". . .

You don't get it. This isn't an story of D.O.A. or Street Fighter. It's not about a match in a ring or a street brawl.
This is, by creation, a world where superman doesn't wake up with the urge to take a leak and start hurlin' asteroids, on Wayne Manor or anything/one else .And it's a world where Batman doesn't need to carry K. around "just in case". If Superman's mental faculties ever degenerated to the point where he became a threat to humanity, or if he ever decided to become a living god on earth, etc., it would be the Bat that takes him out. Even Superman realizes that no one other than Batman has the capacity to fully anticipate him, out-maneuver him, and bring him down.

As far as crime fighting, you can't even compare the two. Superman is a jock. A warm hearted, well-meaning jock. But a jock nonetheless. He's a brawler without actual talent. His tactics are as follows: Get Hit. I mean, his only method of crimefighting is to plant himself in the path of oncoming attack until his opponent gets tired, at which point he gives a lecture on morality. And here's the reality of it. He's treating the symptoms and not the disease. He drags in every two-bit street hood and jaywalker he sees, which has no effect except to show his hand to the higher up criminals in Metropolis. Case in point: Lex Luthor. He's been around forever. Now he's president (or was 'till recently). Superman's never really had the balls to do anything about Lex, except meddle in his schemes and mix things up a bit. Had Lex lived in Gotham city he'd have never made it into Fortune 500, much less the American Gov. Look what happened the one time he tried to move into Gotham (NML). He was neutered and sent packing by Batman. Something ol' Blue Boy has never managed to do yet. Repeat: Superman treats symptoms. Batman fights the disease at it's origins. It's kinda funny, but on nine occasions Superman has floundered into Gotham, only to foul up Batman's Op's, that are typically too intricate for Supes to grasp. Batman keeps having to patiently explain to him exactly why he's a moron and repeatedly invite him to get the hell out of Gotham.

A couple of comparisons of the two:
- S's motivation: A boyscout sense of justice, and it goes no deeper than that. He grew up on a farm. He has no connection to what he does. He's an overgrown, bulletproof kid, with a heart bursting to love everyone, good and bad.
- B's motivation: He was bred from crime. It's why he exists at all. He loathed his own and the worlds inability to stop it. Every night is one more step in his own, and Gotham's, pilgrimmage to salvation.

- S's master: Any civil servant who cares to give him an order. "Yes Sir!, Mr. President, Mr. Congressman, Mr. Policeman, Mr. Traffic Guard! Whatever you say sir!
- B's master: His knowledge. His training. His perceptions. Himself.

- S's courage: It's pretty high I admit. Doomsday was one helluva fight. But it's a brawlers courage. It's neither focused nor disciplined.
- B's courage: As intense as sunlight. Practical and trained courage. He's a man doing a job. Unlike Superman he's good enough where most confrontations don't end in his having to take a bullet. But when you get down to it, who's got more guts, the guy with impervious skin or the one with mesh kevlar?

Y'know, this comparison could go on forever, and the scales just aren't goin' to tip in Supes favor.

On a personal note, I, and the majority of other readers, have found your evaluation of the controversey to be childish and unnecessarily dramatic. Just like Blue Boy, you need to learn to THINK. . . (jock).

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SMalldeath
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Date Posted: 01:52:33 01/20/05 Thu

the fact that batman has no super powers is false he has one GIANT super power, and that is the power of cold hard cash. He's a millionaire and owns a corparation, he has an ulimited amount of resources that would wear superman down.

ps jeez jimmy personal attacks aint soo smart, just a friendly conversation right?

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