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Date Posted: Wed 2003-10-22 11:07:23
Author: sweetheart
Subject: Re: privacy in the empire
In reply to: Redeye 's message, "Re: privacy in the empire" on Wed 2003-10-22 10:29:16

1. coup in the sense of how voters were illegally struck off the roles in florida... how counting was stopped by partisan means and how not counting the votes somehow became a concept in an election.? Florida should have been disallowed and the election voided, or counted without florida. The supreme court by not counting the votes carried out a wholly "legal" coup, and arn't all coups legal?

2.bullying. Ok. My european company makes widgets just like a california company. The california company goes to american capital markets and gets 500 million dollars funding and hires and army of sales people deploying them in my backyard. I am not able to get inflated valuation funding, and my customers are concerned that i can't field as strong a sales force and R*D force as the claifornia operation... my firm slowly loses customers by the sheer mass of sales force deployed. My options are to take my company to california and play in a propaganda market to inflate my valuation too or go bust... and indeed, you'll have a hard time naming any european IT technology companies besides SAP. Americans arn't naturally smarter... the markets created a lie and people all over the world paid for it with their careers. When the bubble went bust along with the huge armies of sales folk, the real organic businesses they destroyed in the melee did not return... business is war and america has been very destructive.

3. ?? so

4. Its not a conspiracy, its fact. The wall street nexus is a non-military agency for american imperialism just like in roman times... good explanation on this: http://www.wizardsofmoney.org

5. I'n not talking about news stories... i mean IDN, integrated digital feeds... dripping real-time prices on treasuries and stock markets straight into banks trading rooms... reuters 3000, F/x trading, and that stuff... the entire world wholesale financial markets run on reuters... AP is not a digital financial news provider, and as much as comstock and some others claim small niche audiences, every global financial institution in the world uses reuters only... bloomberg is a competitor in some niche markets... so great arguable 2 competitors scrutinizing financial data and analyzing it... reuters is not only raw feeds, rather the whole package. Remember reuters owns tibco and buy side analysis news operations: http://www.about.reuters.com/productinfo/multex.asp

6. conspiracy is the wrong word, i should not have used it... perhaps a benign collusion gone sour is more precise. I love consumerism... just when it turns detrimental to the consumers, that we are push-marketed a diet of foods, energy-transport products, and media products that are detrimental to the society as a whole as the public goods byproducts are destructive to the public interest. I mean for example that push-marketing cocacola has created a massive healthcare problem in hyperglycemia and dental carries that is not paid for in that bottle of pop. Maybe burger king is sorta responsible for the fat kids... i can remember entire weeks of my life eating only macdonalds and jackinthebox, geez would they have paid for my heart medication if i kept it up for 3 decades and had high blood pressure and such? The externalities are not being priced by the free market and the democratic system is so deteriorated that it is not regulating the markets to compensate for these externalities except in a reactive sense through lawsuits... and legislating through lawsuit is a very degenerate form of governance at best. Media products and GUNS have lead to crime levels where more people have been killed during this iraq invasion by guns on the streets of los angeles than in iraq... yet those deaths are unreported and accepted as a natural byproduct of living in an ameircan city... it is wholly degenerate and the failed-government is the root fault in that. No, its not a conspiracy, its institutional graft and corruption where standing up for a fair and just society is not the role of government, rather simply to legislate for those who have the money to buy interest.

I presume you're in nocal, where you get the better end of the stick.. maybe in a county where gropinator did not win the recall... were i to live there, i'd pick jerry brown's oakland. He's my favorite california hero politician.

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Re: privacy in the empire -- Redeye, Fri 2003-10-24 08:00:58
- unfettered capitalism -- sweetheart, Sat 2003-10-25 11:49:11
  - Re: unfettered capitalism -- Redeye, Sun 2003-10-26 04:53:54